John James was wronged
 

Twice tonight imo. I know he's been argumentative in the past and doesn't let things drop but seriously what was up with Josie giving him sh1t in the nest? From all I could tell he was just trying to have a conversation with Josie and she started accusing him of wanting to start an argument? I don't get it, just cos he dis agreed with her??

Also the Sunshine crap, she started it, what did she expect?

JJ wronged? aawww!

He was very negative to Josie, glad she called him up for it! The girl has had quite a hard life, dont need some tosser trying to convince you that youve not become stronger.

And if Sunshine wasnt in a nightie so she didnt flash it would have been fine, her own fault for not wearing better clothing though.

JJ never thinks he is wrong, he is an egomaniac.

completely agree! he wasnt in the wrong at all!

Josie has always had issues with his behaviour. So have the other HMs. Thats what she was going at him for.

Sunshine was more in the wrong but he shouldnt be dragging a woman to the pool like that when she's in a skimpy negligee thingy and protesting about her knickers showing. Hardly a gentleman.

but they were just having a discussion about people walking out, he was only giving his opinion

i have opened a thread for all the folk who thought she was the second coming to come and say they were wrong ,its bulging at the seams ,she WAS wrong and one day some poor bloke will get in bigger bother than JJ did tonight she is nasty,devious and mentally unstable

John wasn't really in the wrong tonight at all. Josie starts on at him quite a lot I've noticed actually like every day. Basically she slags him off, saying she wants to kill him or something, then says she fancies him, but only when he's in a football kit... and acts really flirty around him all the time.

And if she gives it out, she's gotta be prepared for it back. But instead she kicks up a fuss so everyone comes round her feeling sorry for her and shouting that's she's going to leave. Then crying in the diary room, asks for Mario, then won't even hug him. I hate her so ****ing much.

Good post, John did nothing wrong and even the most biased of Sunshine fans have a cheek to say otherwise.

Josie said JJ reminds her of an 11 year old little brother tonight

so if they do fancy each other and get together for a kiss at some point, it would seem a bit strange :joker:

Well Josie hears more of his whinging than anybody else. He goes on and on. For somebody like her who doesn't do that it must be very tiresome and frustrating. She's just in there for a laugh and he keeps bringing her down with his constant paranoia about other HMs.

And just because Sunshine is a silly dramaqueen at times that does not make him the saint. They can both be in the wrong...its not that ones right and one's wrong.

I thought it was impossible for me to hate her more,but after seeing the dr which obviously i never saw last nigth, i now hate her more

even if he was wronged! which let me make clear now! he wasnt wronged atall cause he arrogantly and ignorantly told josie she didnt feel how she felt hmmm so your in her head are you you dumb aussie twat??? . but he deserves what he gets! then maybe he'd know how it feels to be ben , rachel ,josie and other hm's he's bullied!!!!!!! :xyxwave:

I reckon it's sexual tension between Josie and JJ tbh, I kept expecting them to start snogging in the middle of their argument:joker:

Same for me.

I think the only reason Josie got so upset with him tonight is because she new he was totally right and it scared her someone saw through the facade she had built up for herself to help her in life, as so many people do.

JJ pushes Josies buttons in a good way and bad way so I'm not surprised she had a bit of a go at him

Sunshine, on the other hand, showed she cant take a joke, again.

The truth of the matter is...both Sunshine and Josie FANCY JJ....its soooo obvious.They are both fighting for his attention...but neither are getting the reaction they want.JJ does not really fancy either but sees them bothe as good fun in a different way.Their reaction is to make him feel bad when they dont get the reaction they want.
OK JJ does go on a bit but he is honest and likes a good debate and doesnt letthings go unless he feels things have been sorted.Sometimes I think he should just walk away and leave them to it...

I think he wronged Josie BUT not Sunshine, she massively overeacted.

I actually thought that too, they both seem to understand eachother which in turn drives eachother crazy.

yes, a joke which she started!

She's obviously been some bad stuff in the past so she puts on this bubbly carefree, open act but in reality she's really guarded and scared of letting people get too close especially ones she might like. I feel sorry for her but I think JJ will break down her front over time. love them together. <3

Huh? Sorry that makes no sense to me whatsoever. Over analysing.

Josie has constantly shown her frustration over his endless moaning. She gets up and wonders away muttering moan moan moan to herself. It genuinely annoys her. I just don't think she's used to people like that. And Josie is hardly the only HM to catch on to his issues. Theyve all clocked on big time.

He's the one with the facade. Endless contradictions and hypocrisies. He barely makes sense and takes the show way too seriously. Gets paranoid about others playing the game but his paranoia is exactly about HIM playing the game!

Did I imply she was the only one to bemoan him? I was only referring to the disagreement they had directly after he claimed she was lying to herself, a conversation which she refused to continue. If that's not avoiding the truth I don't know what is but whatever. it's just my view on it.