sooooo unsure about ben now!!!!
 

i liked him alot to start with but in tonights hl show i thought ok i cant stand him hanging around camel face but he obviously wants to be friends with everyone or try to cause thats how ben is so it looked like he was sitting on the fence when it came to listening to camel slag david down and david dissagreeing about camel but then ben started to be more b*tchy! :bored: i im hating this!!!!!!! . then i hated the dilema he was in wen david asked him if camel face has been slagging them down and ben said no etc not wanting to betray her cause for some bizzare reason he's friends with her now :shocked:

Ben has been having bitchy conversations since week one.
He claims he's just observing but it's always negative observations, so to to me it's bitching.

Nobody influences him to bitch either. He could always walk away from the more bitchy conversation, like Sunstroke always did. He chooses to bitch.

He's also been friends with Caoimhe since the start so i don't get where your suprise at their friendship comes from.

errr no to start with camel and shabby were against ben oh my god are you forgetting the b*tching they did about him!??????? :shocked: then yeah they started to like him and now he keeps hangign around with her instead of just david and i hate it

He hasnt stopped bitching all day today on live feed.

He has always been bitchy, as have all of the men this year.

I'm really starting to like him! I think his bitching's hilarious

Caoimhe never really got bitchy about Ben though and only got pissed off with him that time he lied about Shabby Ranks rubbing her hands with glee over JJ wanting to leave.

Alot of the time she'd try to get Shabby to see Ben's good points and if Shabby carried on ranting Caoimhe mostly just listened without being bitchy herself.

Like i said, Ben and Caoimhe have been friends since week one.

well i see it more of a recent friendship

Me too. Came across as a total silly person and after tomorrow's HL he will make his popularity go down even more.

Ben continously uses quite clumsy grooming and manipulation techniques, but most somehow manage to miss it. He has from literally day 1.

Yeah!...But not to his face!!...And Ben still thinks that Scabby was genuinely offering him the olive branch ,when she only did it for the task!
Ben...the fool...thinks that they've been friends ever- since!

She's still being nice to his face!....remember....Ben cant see what we see!!:dance:

He is going on about a topic from hours ago still :rolleyes:

what topic??????