Are John James and Ben too marmite to win BB?
 

They have a loyal fanbase, however they have their fair share of detractors and housemates like these before have not gone on to win Big Brother. It could be different this time...

I think Ben is, but I think John stands the most chance of winning.

I think a lot of it depends who they are up against come the day.
Both will have faithful fans but both will also lose some on the way to the final if they stand out of line.

Yeah, I do actully. It is like Freddie towards the end of last year.

The producers are pushing them but they are annoying the longer they are in, same as we had with Shabby.

Are meh poeple usually the winners? Only know of Cameron Stout and I suppose to most he might be meh!

Ben is. He reminds me of Marcus in the sense that you ever love him or loathe him.

IMO The winner will be one of them ,no one else is worthy of winning

Ben is drifiting in the betting odds right across the board already... yeah, I would say he has peaked and now is on a slope... no chance of winning.

JJ might though... he has the powah of the teenies.

I think Josie has a good chance of winning.

Much as I think Ben deserves to win, I know he probably won't. I don't think JJ will either - I have a sinking feeling it will be either Josie or Corin. I don't think any of the past winners were particularly controversial in the house, so can't see the mould being broken for this series.

Marcus was one of the most vile hm8s ever, ben is nothing like him nor are his fans

Ben drifting ? no he is not :shrug::rolleyes:

Apart from Nadia, controversial housemates never seem to win. It's a great shame as they're the ones that make the series worth watching.

yes he is

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/...brother/winner

Ben, JJ and Josie are the best housemates in the house, if neither of them win then its going to be sad.

Well any drifting today will be down to the argument with Steve. Although Steve was wrong in his line of argument the peopl who place bets would back Steve.

Oddschecker do not always get the winner right.
With JJ it depends how he fares with the new housemates.

No, I agree, they don't, but it's a good indicator and far more reliable then forum polls etc.

I disagree it's principally the Steve fall out, though of thats a big factor no doubt.

Bens drift has happened as soon as his constant solo tasks, and the camera time they bring, stopped (punishment or otherwise). He is just seeing the rise and fall that Mario experienced with his mole task.

All he has done for days is whine, snipe and sni1gger in the snug and his 'victim' shine has dulled for many as they have seen his outer persona change recently from bumbling toff into arrogant bitch.

I can see a quietish Hm, such as Ife, with long odds getting a late push from BB and winning.

If I had control over the edit I would take a long shot, pile all my money on them in the last 10 days, and then push them to win.

Ife not a chance. The only people who can deny JJ, Josie and Ben the win is Steve or Corin. The person who can get the late push is Mario.

But, don't you see, thats the point.

10 days of heavy edit in her favour and the wider public would be putty in BBs hands and put their vote wherever they were told to.