Dave stiring up the arugment between Ben and Rachel
 

It looked that way to me

With friends like him who needs enemies. The way he strutted out of the bathroom to get her was very childish. Dave turns the knife in Ben quite often.

I watched it on LF yesterday..Dave had been non-stop bitching about Ben to the other HMs. He then caught up with Ben in the Bathroom where Ben asked him if he (dave) was annoyed with him. Having non stop torn into Ben, Dave turned his answer into being about Rachel to steer clear of being caught out as the two faced back-stabber he has shown himself to be.
Later, he told Andrew that he had caught Ben in a lie and had said:'Right, I'll go and get Rachel then' ... he was trying to get Andrew to turn against Ben just as he had with the others all throughout the day, Andrew wouldn't believe Ben had behaved maliciously so dave reinforced his message with the lie about fetching Rachel...I hope he goes on Friday.

yeah clearly! thats why i dont like dave and at times im unsure about his ******ing motives :cloud: . well atleast ben knows what a stupid cow rachel is now

It was ben who asked for rachel to be summoned to his lair. dave was merely following his demands when he fetched rachel into the bathroom. when rachel came into the bathroom she confirmed daves story as did ben in the end.

Well what did you expect Ben to do when his supposed "best friend" is accusing him of being a liar? He wanted Rachel to say it to his face, and it turns out Ben was right and Rachel just put her spin on it. Why didn't Dave, a 38 year old man and supposedly a christian who should know truth from lies, not know that there was no way there was any relationship between Ben and Rachel, and Ben is free to talk to whomever he wished? Or is Dave secretly extremely jealous of Ben? A true friend would never be so quick to think badly of someone they profess to care about. Dave is a sh*t stirrer and I hope he's out this week.

Dave is fair, he treats everyone as he sees them. Even his best friends are, if they do wrong in his eyes, held accountable.

dave is a pain, havnt seen him loved up on the lord lately, too busy stirring and changing faces.

I wish bb will show a video of all the housemates lying to each other jj would go nuts

Ben is such a back stabbing liar.. in the nest bitching about rachel I dont mean to be nasty.. blah blah blah...

He wasn't stirring up anything. Geezus

'i never said anything like that' sounds a lot like his usual 'I would never say that about you'

so ben did say it.. (ben liar liar pants on fire!!!) ...but was joking???...(so he says it as a joke & people accept it as a joke and not a lie) BS he lied..

He wasn't stirring. He was stirred. He was the one stirred and he was stirring himself more than anything else.
It was not attractive and one of the first clear signs the pressure is really getting on him. I notice a few others getting hostile, pushy.. i think its mounting on some.

But yeah.. he wasn't so much 'stirring others' but that was him getting all pissy and annoyed and starting to crack a bit.

dave was bang on with his comments to ben in the snug

Dave has been stirring and backstabbing all along. I'd love to see him go on Friday

This from someone who supports that dozy lying, bunny boiler who, together with the biggest liar and gameplayer in the house, are "playing" the deluded viewers with their terminally boring fauxmance. Between bunny boiler and aussie twat they have managed to ruin BB for a lot of us viewers, and certainly for most of the HMs who don't get a look in for air time with those two camera *****s.

Exactly.... Dave sees right through Ben.Ben is a user... he smarms around everyone kissing them etc.He would not give any of them the time of day on the outside world.

no she did not.

she confirmed that she had not told dave what dave said she had or in the way dave said it:nono:

she just said it in a different way, it had the same meaning..ben confirmed this..I watched it all unfold on live feed.

Ben needs to wise up that he has no friends in that place - they don't like the fact that Ben marches to his own beat and isn't a sheep like the rest of them and that makes them quite jealous of him. He is well within his rights to talk to the new housemates as it must be a breath of fresh air for him to have new subjects to talk about and if the others can't understand that he is a touchy feely type person then they all need to grow up a bit - putting an arm around someone doesn't not constitute a marriage contract!!!

What amazes me is.....that it's taken so long for people to see what Rasputin IS!
He plays the 'enemy within' role in the house!
Pretending to be you're best friend to gain your trust...and slipping the knife into your back with every oppertunity!!...All under the guise of innocence, he highlights every little fault that you have!!....with the smile of ' A FRIEND '!!

:nono:......:nono:

Dave shouldnt even be a hm to be honest. Hes a ****.
Fake as **** . And I hope that he doesnt win the S&R
I hope steve wins, which i never thought i would be saying.

he wasn't backstabbing tell me one thing he said that was not true

Totally agree, im so please everyone seeing what i've been seeing from day 1 with Dave, i cant stand the guy, i so so hope he goes on Friday.

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Rachel is the biggest stirrer. She has just tried to set Ben up. Jo is talking to Ben, he told her she could visit him in London, Rachel then comes in and says he said the same to her.
She is prattling on about him inviting more than one person, she is such a twit.
Plan backfired Rachel. it shows her up rather than Ben.