John James disagree with Josie over whether Keeva was given a hard time in the house
 

Even though he was afraid to, as he says Josie kicks him in the bollocks when he dose not agree with her . Josie denied that they all joined forces to get Keeva out and Dave agreed, complaining that one time Keeva did not want to hear about his bowel movements. JJ2 said Keeva was the hottest girl in the house and she was the one he wished was still in there, which i am sure did not go down well with Josie

ciaomhe was a nasty spiteful biatch, much moore John j's type, so no wonder he is missing his biatchin partner

irish people take the p-ss out of their friends and expect their friends to give as good as they have got , neither friend would take it seriously as they did in the house , in fact it is considered bad form to take it seriously , john knew it was just banter once he got to know her

You expect us to buy that! Just a pathetic attempt to excuse the nasty behaviour of a hm who happened to be Irish! :joker:

Irish people do indeed lioke to joke and tease, as indeed do the rest of us. What you are suggesting however, is an inadequate justication for Keeva the liar and spiteful bitch to engage in the nastiest manner possible, yet claim this is just the "craic". Wrong, it's malice and nastiness without any redeeming geatures. If anyone who got to "know her better", found any of that acceptable, then their own judgement and moral compass is indeed questionable.

its just a different culture , your making the mistake of taking everything she said as being deadly serious.my friends might insult me and i would insult them back neither would take it seriously or be offended, if you did take offence and sulked you would be seen as a bit wet and not really up to the mark.Also Keeva was quite willing to change her mind about people she did not like or was suspicious of, like Sunshine she told Davina that it was only on the last task that they did together that she really got to know Sunshine and realised how genuine she was

The sort of thing you're talking about is due to individual personality not nationality - that is ridiculous. Not all Irish people are the same, not all English people are the same etc!

exactly right Julia:hugesmile: Eventhough I do think alot of the time she was taken seriously when she was only messing but alot of the time she was being a bitch too!

it is an accept part of the culture especially in Dublin where friends will say things in jest that are really close to the bone and still remain friends .Its the way you handle this banter that decides whether you are going to be really good friends or not

Eh, you're missing one very important point here: Caoimhe wasn't funny! She was just a nasty piece of work.

As I said - down to individual character and personality - I am not buying into this nationality dictates behaviour thing!

You can't possibly think all Irish people are the same.

I wasn't a big Caoimhe fan, but Josie definitely wanted her out.

I like how suddenly it's a Dublin thing when someone from Cork disagreed with you:joker:

Well said! :joker:

yes she was, thats why John James is still defending her to the very needy and clingy Josie. thats why he gets on with Sam who is now filling the same role in the house as Keeva, of mock insults to get a bit of banter going which reveals their real character and he getting praised for it because the so called happy house, after she left was so fake and boring. John james was crying out for someone like Sam who was not afraid to have some real banter

i am not from Dublin but i go there alot and they really make an art of taking the P-ss there , its also the norm where i live in the heart of Ireland

I know what you're saying and what you're talking about is Banter which is also a big part of British culture, I think the problem was that people don't believe that it was banter and for banter to work all the people involved have to be aware that that is what it is. Having said that I don't think that Caoimhe was as bad as people made out either

I'm Irish and I've lived in Dublin for the best part of the last decade. Nationality does not dictate personality. To think that every irish person is going to take the p*ss out of people as the norm is riddicuous, and quite insulting.

Complete and utter nonsense

This.

JJ saying she was the most good looking girl in the house? Bollocks!! She was foul!!

She was a bitch and drained the life out of BB. Like Josie said "she has been riding it out for weeks" that she wanted to leave......

She was an attention seeking horrible bitch!!!!!!

John James is pretty much the male version of Cameltoe!! He should have just walked weeks ago when he threatened to leave too!!!!

I agree. Joking? she was nasty and spiteful!!!!!

And used Josie as the excuse why she left!!

when she has been riding it out for weeks!!!!!!

attention seeking, self pitying, pointless bitch!!!!

who only got into BB because of her "bizzare dress sense"

What a waste.

that was the mistake Caoimhe made spending to much time with Shabby so they did not know her well enough to know that what she was saying was just banter. by the way i am half Kilkenny so i have to say UP KILKENNY

Most of the housemates wanted Cameltoe out. Hence why she was up for eviction like 3 times in a row.. but suvived the s+r task 2 weeks in a row. The 3rd week.. she still had the most noms but decided to walk then!

She was horrid!!!!!!!

I feel sorry for Irish people!! the only decent Irish person has been Spiral?? lol

There has NEVER been a decent Irish girl. Well.. Orlaith was okay actually!!

Cameltoe.. what a waste.. when we could have had Kerry, Gillian or Maggie :(

Cameltoe is NOTHING like Sam. Sam says it how it is. What you see is what you get.

Cameltoe.. a malicious, backstabbing, attention seeking, self pitying, foul cow!!!!

Sorry for all the horrible words.. but I am only being honest.

Keeva didn't give Josie a hard time. Josie spun that BS as she went around to all the hms on her hate train. Recall when Keeva made a big deal about the alcohol .... Josie went off her tree when JJ1 agreed with Keeva and not with her. Keeva didn't know what the big deal was a took the mick as Josie cleaned the shower. Keeva was half expecting Josie to turn around and spray her with water and laugh. But no... Josie took it as an attack and an example to add to her "poor me" dialogue that she has going on in her sorry head.