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President 06-09-2010 06:16 PM

Nadia "horrified by Davina's transphobic comments"
 
This has been posted by BB5 housemate Marco Sabba on DS:
Quote:

She was also horrified to hear Davina's comments on Big Mouth about 'boyish good looks', amongst other jibes. Racial jokes would not be tolerated so she is at a loss and devastated to see such transphobic comments screened, especially by an influential TV presenter who she once admired. The transphobic slurs made and broadcast on Big Mouth and BBLB merely seem to reinforce BB’s position that transphobia is fully permitted and allowed by the BB platform.
That bitch Davina went a step too far. I'm delighted Channel 5 won't be taking her. 90% of her other TV shows are flops. Davina's on a downward spiral and will be back on drugs soon. She'll be in rehab within 12 months. Mark my words.

Here's the full post by Marco:
Quote:

I just wanted to say a deeply felt thank you to everyone who took the time to post in the initial thread and private messaged words of kindness and encouragement to Nadia. Everything has been read and all warm sentiments past forward. I feel I owe it to you all to provide an update. Nadia is beginning to seem a little more stable over the past day, we've been sharing little laughs and ordered in a nice lunch. She had otherwise been fairly inconsolable over the weekend.

Having learnt the full extent of editted misrepresentation between herself and Coolio, the more upset she's become and determined to share the truth of events. It's clear that several direct incidents of transphobic abuse have been cut, including:

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).

Emily Big Brother 8, by contrast, had been removed from the Big Brother house for saying a single racist word. Nadia was at the receiving end of days of transphobic abuse.

She was also horrified to hear Davina's comments on Big Mouth about 'boyish good looks', amongst other jibes. Racial jokes would not be tolerated so she is at a loss and devastated to see such transphobic comments screened, especially by an influential TV presenter who she once admired. The transphobic slurs made and broadcast on Big Mouth and BBLB merely seem to reinforce BB’s position that transphobia is fully permitted and allowed by the BB platform.

Nadia has not heard from senior producers since Saturday afternoon and feels they have directly failed her, skirting all contact despite numerous and repeated requests to speak. I am requesting now that you APPEAL with your feet and words. If you feel strongly about this matter and want to do something to directly help Nadia now, please complain to OFCOM about this matter

Raph 06-09-2010 06:24 PM

It's a sad story.

lastcallforsin 06-09-2010 06:26 PM

I don't think Davina has done anything wrong and it's nothing that some other people wouldn't say. Big Mouth does that and most people take things as a joke and, in the words of John James "if you can't hack it, get your jacket". Nadia is milking this for all it's worth.

Shasown 06-09-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by President (Post 3764204)
This has been posted by BB5 housemate Marco Sabba on DS:

That bitch Davina went a step too far. I'm delighted Channel 5 won't be taking her. 90% of her other TV shows are flops. Davina's on a downward spiral and will be back on drugs soon. She'll be in rehab within 12 months. Mark my words.

Here's the full post by Marco:

Hey President send the second quote to your mate Gavin, that used to be his pasttime wasnt it, complaining to OfCom?

InOne 06-09-2010 06:27 PM

Nadia should sue and kill this godforsaken show once and for all!!

BBfan46 06-09-2010 06:27 PM

Are you serious?

Claymores 06-09-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3764230)
Hey President send the second quote to your mate Gavin, that used to be his pasttime wasnt it, complaining to OfCom?

You beat me to it Tel :hugesmile:

heyugoonie 06-09-2010 06:30 PM

I've been going off Davina for the last couple of years, but this just made my mind up that she is a catty bitch.

Niamh. 06-09-2010 06:30 PM

isn't the LF that people pay for 24 hours? How come no one saw any of this?

brian3 06-09-2010 06:30 PM

people made comments like that about Nadia on BBBM during bb5 all the time. Russel Brand said worse at the time.

Shasown 06-09-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3764237)
You beat me to it Tel :hugesmile:

Sorry Ian, would have left it for you if I had known you were online mate :wink:

Chuckyegg 06-09-2010 06:31 PM

Someones been mistaking the Daily Star as factual methinks

Niamh. 06-09-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian3 (Post 3764246)
people made comments like that about Nadia on BBBM during bb5 all the time. Russel Brand said worse at the time.

and like some one said earlier it's only an issue now cos she got booed

iRyan 06-09-2010 06:32 PM

It's really unfortune that as a previous winner her relationship with the producers and Big Brother itself has now been ruined.

Shasown 06-09-2010 06:33 PM

There may even be some truth to what Nadia says happened with Coolio, however she is overreacting I think. She simply cant accept the fact the public dont like her as much as she thought they did. It simply looks like sour grapes.

SoBig 06-09-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastcallforsin (Post 3764228)
I don't think Davina has done anything wrong and it's nothing that some other people wouldn't say. Big Mouth does that and most people take things as a joke and, in the words of John James "if you can't hack it, get your jacket". Nadia is milking this for all it's worth.

Davina did nothing wrong. I also watched Big Mouth and nothing she said was meant to be offensive. Nadia is taking everything out of context, so that she won't look as bad in the public's eye.

SoBig 06-09-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3764243)
isn't the LF that people pay for 24 hours? How come no one saw any of this?

because it didn't happen. How come we only now hearing about it? *rolls eyes*

smudgie 06-09-2010 06:41 PM

Time to let it all drop.
Marco is an attentions seeker, same as his mate Nadia. Both losers looking for "fame" on the back of this incident, using it to make some money maybe:hugesmile:
Davina should not have mentioned boyish good looks, for one thing Nadia is no longer a boy, and for another she is too plain looking to be classed as good looking.

Niamh. 06-09-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBig (Post 3764282)
because it didn't happen. How come we only now hearing about it? *rolls eyes*

yeah, I mean surely someone on here would have seen something or atleast heard her talking about it to the other HMs if she was that distressed:conf:

Patrick 06-09-2010 06:47 PM

We :love: Marco!

Draaaama!

Jamietwo 06-09-2010 06:48 PM

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).


I wasn't aware of this, it's really bad. coolio was just being coolio ie a one hit hasbeen crack addict with narcissistic personality disorder and an immature macho attitude problem. however BB clearly failed to show the situation in context. No wonder Nardia went off the rails to that extent, all things considered she handled herself well. She can take a joke as is evident from her self depreciating humor during her interview, and in hindsight it is clear that she survived a level of provocation and bullying that would destroy most of us. I'm also disappointed in Davina for her apparent insensitivity on this occasion. I'm not a fan of litigation at every opportunity, but in this case I really do hope Nadia goes ahead and wins.

Niamh. 06-09-2010 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3764304)
We :love: Marco!

Draaaama!

oh I hated Marco!

MassiveTruck 06-09-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3764243)
isn't the LF that people pay for 24 hours? How come no one saw any of this?

It probably didn't happen in the extreme of what Marco is hoping for.

This is after all Marco re-living his Big Brother days through Nadia isn't it.

Niamh. 06-09-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamietwo (Post 3764307)
- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).


I wasn't aware of this, it's really bad. coolio was just being coolio ie a one hit hasbeen crack addict with narcissistic personality disorder and an immature macho attitude problem. however BB clearly failed to show the situation in context. No wonder Nardia went off the rails to that extent, all things considered she handled herself well. She can take a joke as is evident from her self depreciating humor during her interview, and in hindsight it is clear that she survived a level of provocation and bullying that would destroy most of us. I'm also disappointed in Davina for her apparent insensitivity on this occasion. I'm not a fan of litigation at every opportunity, but in this case I really do hope Nadia goes ahead and wins.

Yes but again I'll repeat, how come know one who was watching l/f saw any of that or heard her talking about it? If it was the way she was saying then surely Nadia would be talking about it to her friends in there alot?:conf:

billy123 06-09-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian3 (Post 3764246)
people made comments like that about Nadia on BBBM during bb5 all the time. Russel Brand said worse at the time.

Exactly right nadia never seemed to give a damn about these things when she was winning.


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