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keithafc 12-09-2010 04:14 AM

Did they get the UBB line up right?
 
I know people will say its all about opinions and everyone will question who was picked etc and who was left out but is it me or did they get the line up completely wrong?

Instead of going out with a real bang, as in having the REAL best housemates ever in the history of Big Brother, we ended up with too many people just interested in the money. A number of celebrities in my opinion contributed nothing to the UBB show and obviously only did it for the money.

Now, if those housemates did something to DESERVE that money and actually played a role in the house instead of just sitting around and doing fk all, then there would be less talk about it.

But too many of them did too little and for me, i don't know how the they picked some of the ones they did and paid them what they did and how little some of them actually produced on the show. Some will say well it is all about people being themselves but surely the aim for UBB was to entertain and get us talking and ending BB on a real high? All we got was too many wasters and celebrities walking away, who can't believe their luck to get paid the amount they did for producing the little they did on the show.

Angus 12-09-2010 06:13 AM

Ulrika, Preston, Michelle. Chantelle - all wastes of space. There was no-one from BB3, BB4, BB8, BB9. BB10 or BB11. Why 3 from BB5?? We should have had one housemate from each of the series, preferably the winner if possible, but at least one memorable character from each series, and when Josie the wimp walked they should have immediately replaced her. The only saving grace for UBB was that Nick and Victor were there, otherwise I wouldn't even have bothered watching. As for Vanessa, what the hell right did she have to be in there having lasted only 3 days in CBB?

Imagine what a great show it would have been with Rex, Marcus, Ben and Sam instead of some of the massive bores we got stuck with?

Raph 12-09-2010 06:24 AM

At the time, I was highly disappointed by it. However, as Coolio and John McCririck left, the show became the great show that it is, again, and was a pleasure to watch. Only fault was putting in those vulgar two in the first place!

Shardlake 12-09-2010 06:38 AM

no they got it monumentally wrong, on all counts.

Patricia4 12-09-2010 08:27 AM

Wrong

Wingnut73 12-09-2010 08:55 AM

They were never going to get it completely right. For a show that went on for so many years unfortunately many of the characters probably didn't want to go back, so there was probably only a limited pool of housemates generally to pick from. I imagine many were put off primarily due to the whole JADe debacle in the infamous CBB series.
They got it right with Nick, Brian, Victor, Makosi and Nadia definately (it is unfortunate that with the latter, it all went a bit pear shaped) but in a perfect BB I would have liked to see also,:

Alex/Adele
Charley (purely for comic value)
Rex
Pete Burns
Jack dee (although I know there was noway he would ever have done it)

Those I can think off the top off my head. Can you imagine Pete Burns, Rex and Charley being together, classic.

seanraff07 12-09-2010 09:23 AM

You could say it was alright, then again you had HM's in there like Preston, Ulrika and Vanessa who made no impact.

Shardlake 12-09-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wingnut73 (Post 3784814)
They were never going to get it completely right. For a show that went on for so many years unfortunately many of the characters probably didn't want to go back, so there was probably only a limited pool of housemates generally to pick from. I imagine many were put off primarily due to the whole JADe debacle in the infamous CBB series.
They got it right with Nick, Brian, Victor, Makosi and Nadia definately (it is unfortunate that with the latter, it all went a bit pear shaped) but in a perfect BB I would have liked to see also,:

Alex/Adele
Charley (purely for comic value)
Rex
Pete Burns
Jack dee (although I know there was noway he would ever have done it)

Those I can think off the top off my head. Can you imagine Pete Burns, Rex and Charley being together, classic.

Pete Burns or any other 'celebs' had no business being in there, that's what spoilt it.

Celebrity Big brother is a different entity and is fine by itself

Ultimate Big Brother should have been about ex housemates from the full length series that made stars of ordinary people. There is no end of people they could have put in, Marcus, Jonty, John Tickle, Eugene, Kate Lawler, Johnny, Saskia, Bubble etc. etc.

Putting paid people in there who just treated being there as another job went completely against everything it should have been.

In the end the show was a victim of its own success. The first few shows worked because people going in there were genuinely interested in the concept of a social experiment, then it turned into a platform for wannabes.

Joelle. 12-09-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 3784766)
At the time, I was highly disappointed by it. However, as Coolio and John McCririck left, the show became the great show that it is, again, and was a pleasure to watch. Only fault was putting in those vulgar two in the first place!

So what if they are vulgar! Big Brother is an entertainment show and that's something those two would have given if they were kept in longer. That's why it became so boring. It's not the nicest person contest but coming from a Rachel Rice fan this doesn't surprise me :conf:

Visage 12-09-2010 10:25 AM

It's easier to comment now the show is over, however I do think the use of celebrities wasn't right.


I would have much preferred the final battle to be all about the none celebrity housemates.

brian3 12-09-2010 12:54 PM

I think they did the best they could. We dont know who said no to it

Shardlake 12-09-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian3 (Post 3785131)
I think they did the best they could. We dont know who said no to it

They sold out imo. They took the easy option of spending cash to get people in there that would appeal to the 'wide market' when people like Katreya (even though I cant stand the woman) who turns up to the opening of an envelope, would have done it for nothing.

InOne 12-09-2010 01:01 PM

They got it very wrong. Ulrika, Vanessa, Preston and Chantelle, all big big mistakes.

Patricia4 12-09-2010 03:33 PM

I agree they did get it wrong.

Niamh. 12-09-2010 03:42 PM

I would have picked very different HMs, no CBB HMs for a start but I was just happy that Brian Dowling was in it tbh

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 12-09-2010 03:56 PM

swap preston nasty nick and ulrika for charley pete burns and bea then its right

Zippy 12-09-2010 04:05 PM

They chose Ulrika FFS.

And too many other pointless celebs just there for the cash and a boost to their careers. It turned out ok mostly but could have been SO MUCH better.

Ch4 just can't do great BB anymore. Theyve lost their bottle.

Zippy 12-09-2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian3 (Post 3785131)
I think they did the best they could. We dont know who said no to it

Well they didnt even ask Pete Burns so I have no faith that they even approached the right people in the first place!

Ulrika or Pete Burns? Hmmm

keithafc 12-09-2010 05:01 PM

I can't believe they put in Ulrika and Preston. This was supposed to be ULTIMATE Big Brother and it ended up being pure rubbish. At least John Mccririck contributed to the show, Ulrika, Chantelle and Preston contributed NOTHING and we got nothing.

The producers of BB or the people who picked those housemates have some serious questions to answer with the picks they made. I can't believe they picked Ulrkia for starters. Completely pointless. I am annoyed that not more people aren't standing up about the terrible line up when we had the likes of Rex, Marcus, Charley etc who would of no doubt imo gone on the show for a far less fee than what Ulrika got.

Legend killer 12-09-2010 05:03 PM

Of course NOT just look at the raitings Epic fail. Where were the likes of Marcus and Rex , instead we had ppl like Ulreka in it complete joke

keithafc 12-09-2010 05:05 PM

It was almost as if they wanted to play safe. What is the point of that? Playing safe is going to do no good to get a great series. I really enjoyed the last Celebrity BB but i enjoyed it because they put in some great characters.

That was the problem with UBB, not even the normal housemates were as good as they should of been, never mind the celebrity housemates.

Rob 12-09-2010 05:05 PM

could have been better but what you gonna do? other than complain?

Jordan. 12-09-2010 05:13 PM

It was alright i suppose but could have been far better.

We needed the likes of Charley, Rex + Bea in there, it was too happy housey.

Zippy 12-09-2010 05:18 PM

If they had just all regular HMs it would have been much bitchier and competitive. They all started off equal but some now think theyre bigger stars than the others!

Half being celebs just set an instant pecking order it never recovered from.

Mac Hiavellian 12-09-2010 05:57 PM

It's a tough one because it's all about a difference of opinion, some HMs are fresher in memory than others, it was a short series, and the number Celeb HMs were met with criticism.

IMO Preston was not a classic HM, and served no purpose other than creating cheap, awkward will they/won't they exposure for him and Chantelle. There was no need for 2 representatives for CBB4.

Ulrika or Coolio - both love or hate figures. Ulrika, a moany cow, and Coolio an argumentative chauvanist. Again, it didn't require 2 representatives for one series and CBB6 isn't regarded as one of the best BBs, in fact it was the frst series with no LF and wasn't as big a comeback for CBB as hoped.

Nadia, Victor or Michelle - I liked them both. Victor contributed a lot, and Michelle was also more likable for me this time around although she really didn't do much. Nadia was already in there so neither of these 2 should really have gone in. Or perhaps have 1 of them instead of Nadia in the first place. I love Nadia but it's clear she wasn't in the right state of mind to go back in (even Come Dine With Me was evidence for that)

So, removing Preston, either one of the CBB6 HMs, and 2 of the BB5ers leaves 4 places that could have gone to more deserving former HMs, each of which could have represented a different series. Anyone from BB3, 4, 8, 9, 10 primarily, and CBB2, 5 or 7 as a last resort.


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