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Angus 17-09-2010 08:24 AM

Diana Abbott: A hypocritical Labour racist?
 
The fact that this woman is an MP is beyond an outrage. She seems to think being a racist is a one way street so feels perfectly free to be as racist as she likes towards white folk. She recently made a speech saying that black people should be exempt from job cuts and calling for white males to be axed first when sweeping public sector savings are announced next week.

She also sends her son to a £12,500 a year private school because she doesn't want him to mix with the "wrong" type of black kid who might get him involved in gang culture. So she is not only a racist but a class bigot.

Glad to see she's been reported to the police for inciting racial hatred, but furious that they are not going to act on the complaint - typical double standards by this politically correct undemocracy we now live in. Imagine if a white person had made such remarks,about black people they would have felt the full force of the law.

The people inciting racial intolerance and hatred in this country are the government and the judiciary for not applying the same laws and rules to ALL transgressors.

arista 17-09-2010 09:06 AM

She is the Token Woman
in that 5 team trying to be leader.
She is just there to say New Labour like women or something.

ElProximo 17-09-2010 10:20 AM

As usual and once again those very people who claim for themselves titles of tolerance and claim to 'fight racism' turn out to be the worst kind of racists who most definitely do discriminate, prejudge and are filled with intolerance.
Most of these types like joining Labour or become Uni professors and a few get on with BBC, C4 etc.
Glad she was called out on it!

BB_Eye 17-09-2010 10:36 AM

She gives the Labour left a bad name. I wish John McDonnell had been made a candidate instead of her.

InOne 17-09-2010 11:17 AM

She is the type that thinks people today should apologize for the slave trade.

LaLaLand 17-09-2010 11:21 AM

I really don't like this woman, she's the type of person you'd love to smack. She's got a right ego on her hasn't she!

Tom 17-09-2010 01:08 PM

In all honesty none of the main people in the leadership race are right for it. Diana is just a stupid parody who seems like she belongs in a TV sketch show, the 2 Milibands have 'tory' written allover them, Ed Balls is just a mess and I can't even remember who the 5th one is. They might as well just keep Harriet 'WOMBAI' Harman as the leader, the gap has shortened considerably with her as the leader even though shes a nob

BB_Eye 17-09-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3795346)
In all honesty none of the main people in the leadership race are right for it. Diana is just a stupid parody who seems like she belongs in a TV sketch show, the 2 Milibands have 'tory' written allover them, Ed Balls is just a mess and I can't even remember who the 5th one is. They might as well just keep Harriet 'WOMBAI' Harman as the leader, the gap has shortened considerably with her as the leader even though shes a nob

Andy Burnham is the other one. Arch Blairite.

NettoSuperstar! 17-09-2010 02:13 PM

As I thought...what she actually said is that the policy of last in first out could lead to a disproportionate amount of ethnic minorities losing jobs simply because they are new to the public sector...nothing whatsover about wanting white people out or Black people being exempt...I suggest reading a bit more widely than the BNP newsletter

BB_Eye 17-09-2010 02:56 PM

I should have asked for a source. :bored:

I still have misgivings about Diane Abbott though. She has a very adversarial style of speaking. Always pointscoring. The fact that she still seems more appealing than all the other candidates is a depressing indictment against her rivals.

Tom 17-09-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3795447)
I should have asked for a source. :bored:

I still have misgivings about Diane Abbott though. She has a very adversarial style of speaking. Always pointscoring. The fact that she still seems more appealing than all the other candidates is a depressing indictment against her rivals.

Shes only a token candidate anyway. We all know its David Milibands to lose. By getting a black woman, Labour are ticking 2 boxes in one go

Angus 17-09-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar! (Post 3795414)
As I thought...what she actually said is that the policy of last in first out could lead to a disproportionate amount of ethnic minorities losing jobs simply because they are new to the public sector...nothing whatsover about wanting white people out or Black people being exempt...I suggest reading a bit more widely than the BNP newsletter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJNvJXjZpvk
Out of her own mouth - spin it how your like it is quite clear what she is saying, despite the usual politician's dissembling and disingenuity.

And how bloody dare you insinuate that I would read anything the vile BNP might have published? I'm interested in facts, and what I see and can hear for myself as in this case, not the propoganda distributed by fascists and extreme socialists.

By the way, you appear to have bypassed the point about her being a massive snob, since she clearly doesn't see any problem sending her son to a private school to avoid him coming in contact with common people, black and white.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YPJ0...eature=related

Angus 17-09-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3795447)
I should have asked for a source. :bored:

I still have misgivings about Diane Abbott though. She has a very adversarial style of speaking. Always pointscoring. The fact that she still seems more appealing than all the other candidates is a depressing indictment against her rivals.

Do you not read the papers, watch the news, watch the political programmes in which she is actually SPEAKING and saying these things? Or do you simply rely on other people's opinions, especially extreme left wing idiots who will defend such crass racist hypocrisy simply because the perpetrator is black?
It is the likes of Dianne Abbot who pretend to be anti racist who are THE most racist people against white people. Racism is racism be it blacks to whites, or whites to blacks, there is no difference.

arista 17-09-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3795346)
In all honesty none of the main people in the leadership race are right for it. Diana is just a stupid parody who seems like she belongs in a TV sketch show, the 2 Milibands have 'tory' written allover them, Ed Balls is just a mess and I can't even remember who the 5th one is. They might as well just keep Harriet 'WOMBAI' Harman as the leader, the gap has shortened considerably with her as the leader even though shes a nob



Yes Tom
Stinking New Labour is fecked.


Sign Of The Times.

BB_Eye 17-09-2010 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3795474)
Do you not read the papers, watch the news, watch the political programmes in which she is actually SPEAKING and saying these things? Or do you simply rely on other people's opinions, especially extreme left wing idiots who will defend such crass racist hypocrisy simply because the perpetrator is black?
It is the likes of Dianne Abbot who pretend to be anti racist who are THE most racist people against white people. Racism is racism be it blacks to whites, or whites to blacks, there is no difference.

I'm not a big newspaper reader, that much I'll admit. I dislike pretty much every major news publication. The Grauniad, the Daily Fail, the whole lot. But I know full well what the likes the Andy Burnham and the Miliband brothers represent. They are NuLab through and through would go to any lengths to keep the Labour party indistinguishible from the Tories. I also know that these five candidates were only selected because the Labour parties' grassroots membership has no say in who they want as leader and that it's the Blair and Brown cronies in the House of Commons making the decisions.

And no I don't listen to any old left wing loony. I disagree with ange7 on a lot of things, I hate the notion that we should compromise freedom of speech and make concessions to the sensitivities of religious groups and I think you know how I feel about the leniency of the criminal justice system.

I'm sorry, even after watching that video, I am still not convinced. She isn't calling for the sacking of white workers in the public sector. She is pointing out an unfortunate reality that these public sector cuts will bring about. That more recent public sector employees, particularly black women who, unlike many of their older white colleagues will lose out in this last-in-first-out mode of cost-cutting. She is not proposing any scheme to promote black workers to some sort of position of priviledge. Only proposing that it is monitored. Is that really so bad?

GiRTh 17-09-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3795474)
Do you not read the papers, watch the news, watch the political programmes in which she is actually SPEAKING and saying these things? Or do you simply rely on other people's opinions, especially extreme left wing idiots who will defend such crass racist hypocrisy simply because the perpetrator is black?
It is the likes of Dianne Abbot who pretend to be anti racist who are THE most racist people against white people. Racism is racism be it blacks to whites, or whites to blacks, there is no difference.

That first vid was probably posted by a BNP supporter. Note the link to the BNP website. My skin is crawling at the fact that I clicked on the link and actually entered the site:yuk:. In the interview all she does is ask the public sector to be mindful of gender and race in making cuts. I don't see much wrong.

Diane Abbot is an idiot. The fact that she's ultra left wing but sent her son to a private school is enough to demonstrate her level of hypocrisy; especially since she'd previously criticised Tony Blair for doing the same thing. She wont win the vote but she'll make it interesting.

fruit_cake 17-09-2010 04:10 PM

i hope she doesn't win

arista 17-09-2010 04:23 PM

"Diane Abbot is an idiot. The fact that she's ultra left wing but sent her son to a private school is enough to demonstrate her level of hypocrisy"



Bang On Right

BB_Eye 17-09-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3795510)
Diane Abbot is an idiot. The fact that she's ultra left wing but sent her son to a private school is enough to demonstrate her level of hypocrisy;.

Her hypocrisy doesn't end there either. On Question Time, she was very firm and moral in her response to the David Laws scandal. Saying he deserved to face the consequences of claiming expenses, ie money that didn't belong to him, to live with his partner.

Less than a month later, we get this.

arista 17-09-2010 05:15 PM

Yes good VT
BB Eye.

She is to Chummy to be on TV now.
It all stinks.

Angus 17-09-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3795510)
That first vid was probably posted by a BNP supporter. Note the link to the BNP website. My skin is crawling at the fact that I clicked on the link and actually entered the site:yuk:. In the interview all she does is ask the public sector to be mindful of gender and race in making cuts. I don't see much wrong.

Diane Abbot is an idiot. The fact that she's ultra left wing but sent her son to a private school is enough to demonstrate her level of hypocrisy; especially since she'd previously criticised Tony Blair for doing the same thing. She wont win the vote but she'll make it interesting.

Are you suggesting that the video posted was tampered with in some way? If not, then that is what she said, whoever posted it. So how do you interpret her suggesting to local councils to "be mindful"? The majority of people have rightly interpreted it as racist, since she is suggesting insiduously but quite blatantly that ethnic workers should get preferential treatment. Don't white people also have to pay mortgages and utilities and buy food, or must they be expected to stand aside for an ethnic worker who was last in and, by rights, as in all other walks of life should thus be first out?

Oh, and she doesn't reserve her racism only for white people, countless thousands of whom do not enjoy the lifestyle and privileges that she does, but she also looks down her nose at black street culture which she does not wish HER son to be part of. In fact she pretty much looks down her nose at virtually everyone, while she sits up in her ivory tower, having milked MP expenses whilst sanctimoniously criticising tory mps for the same thing.

Is there anything much worse or damaging to the cause of racial equality in this country than a black female labour MP who does NOT practise what she preaches? SHE is the one who will set race relations back by a decade by making such crass and inflammatory remarks.

GiRTh 17-09-2010 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3795610)
Are you suggesting that the video posted was tampered with in some way? If not, then that is what she said, whoever posted it. So how do you interpret her suggesting to local councils to "be mindful"? The majority of people have rightly interpreted it as racist, since she is suggesting insiduously but quite blatantly that ethnic workers should get preferential treatment. Don't white people also have to pay mortgages and utilities and buy food, or must they be expected to stand aside for an ethnic worker who was last in and, by rights, as in all other walks of life should thus be first out?

Oh, and she doesn't reserve her racism only for white people, countless thousands of whom do not enjoy the lifestyle and privileges that she does, but she also looks down her nose at black street culture which she does not wish HER son to be part of. In fact she pretty much looks down her nose at virtually everyone, while she sits up in her ivory tower, having milked MP expenses whilst sanctimoniously criticising tory mps for the same thing.

Is there anything much worse or damaging to the cause of racial equality in this country than a black female labour MP who does NOT practise what she preaches? SHE is the one who will set race relations back by a decade by making such crass and inflammatory remarks.

Unless I'm mistaken she says be mindful of gender and ethnic origin. By mentioning gender does that means she's sexist too?

People have, as usual, completely over reacted to a single comment.

Angus 17-09-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3795781)
Unless I'm mistaken she says be mindful of gender and ethnic origin. By mentioning gender does that means she's sexist too?

People have, as usual, completely over reacted to a single comment.

You mean in the same way people often completely over-react to a single comment made by a white person?

GiRTh 17-09-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3795576)
Her hypocrisy doesn't end there either. On Question Time, she was very firm and moral in her response to the David Laws scandal. Saying he deserved to face the consequences of claiming expenses, ie money that didn't belong to him, to live with his partner.

Less than a month later, we get this.

Good post.

The comments attributed to her in this vid are far more biased than her comment in the OP's vid.

GiRTh 17-09-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3795792)
You mean in the same way people often completely over-react to a single comment made by a white person?

In about 90% of cases, yes.


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