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Vicky. 13-12-2010 03:22 AM

Votes V Placings. Does the death/pimp slot make a difference?
 
Someone was asking for these over on DS, and I have nothing to do and cant sleep...I am aware that it is quite sad to take the time to do this, but IDC :p


Show 1

First on: FYD 1.71% Eliminated.
Second on: Matt 15.4% Lowest ever percentage for him.
Last: TreyC 4.82% Highest percentage she recived throughout the competition.

FYD - 1.71
Matt - 15.4
John - 2.46
Rebecca - 6.51
Storm Lee - 1.89
Belle Amie - 2.13
Cher - 10.31
Diva Fever - 2.28
Paije - 5.83
Katie - 1.55
Mary - 22.28
Nicolo - 1.36
One Direction - 10.04
Wagner - 1.91
Aiden - 9.78
Treyc - 4.82

Show 2

First on: Storm 1.44% Auto elimination
Second on: TreyC 2.82%
Last on: Matt 24.39% 'Won' this show

Storm - 1.44
TreyC - 2.82
Paije - 3.80
One Direction - 9.89
Cher - 7.17
John - 4.50
Diva fever - 2.05
Rebecca - 7.99
Aiden - 8.82
Wagner - 2.47
Katie - 4.30
Belle Amie - 1.86
Mary - 18.55
Matt - 24.39

Show 3

First on: Paije 6.10%
Second on: John 3.78% Eliminated
Last on: Katie 5.95% Highest ever percentage for her through whole competition

Paije 6.10
John 3.78
Rebecca 8.46
Cher 9.12
Matt 23.97
One Direction 11.08
TreyC 2.39
Mary 13.92
Aiden 6.58
Belle Amie 4.15
Wagner 4.50
Katie 5.95

Show 4

First on: Mary 11.98% Lowest percentage for her so far in competition.
Second on: Aiden 6.70%
Last on: Cher 19.72% Second highest percentage for her of the competition.

Mary - 11.98
Aiden - 6.70
Belle Amie - 2.56
Rebecca - 9.79
TreyC - 3.14
Matt - 20.60
Wagner - 4.77
Paije - 6.22
Katie - 2.73
One Direction - 11.79
Cher - 19.72

Show 5

First on: Cher 7.64% Second lowest for her through whole competition.
Second on: Mary 12.02%
Last on: One Direction 12.13% Highest percentage for them up til this point in the competition.

Cher - 7.64
Mary - 12.02
Katie - 3.22
Aiden - 5.85
Paige - 5.19
Rebecca - 12.80
Wagner - 4.21
Matt - 33.41
TreyC - 3.53
One Direction - 12.13

Show 6

First on: Paije 8.02%
Second on: Aiden 5.01% Eliminated. Worst percentage throughout the competition.
Last on: Rebecca 18.24% Second highest percentage of the competition for her (final excluded)

Paije - 8.02
Aiden - 5.01
Mary - 10.66
Katie - 5.29
Matt - 23.16
Cher - 8.88
Wagner - 6.30
One Direction - 14.44
Rebecca - 18.24


Show 7

First on: Matt 18.44% Second lowest in the competition for him.
Second on: Cher 8.00% First bottom two appearance.
Last on: Katie 16.82% Over a 10% boost from the week before. And also the higest percentage she had throughout the competition.

Matt - 18.44
Cher - 8.00
One Direction - 12.65
Rebecca - 12.85
Mary - 11.97
Paije - 9.37
Wagner - 9.90
Katie - 16.82

Show 8

First on - Wagner 10.48% Eliminated.
Second on - One Direction 11.90%
Last on - Cher 13.19%. 5% boost on week earlier. Second highest percentage for her through the whole competition.

Wagner, One Direction, Mary, Cher, Rebecca, Matt, Katie

then

Wagner 10.48
One Direction 11.90
Mary 11.29
Rebecca 13.98
Katie 7.21
Matt 31.95
Cher 13.19

Show 9 - Semi final

First on: Rebecca 20.22%
Second on: Mary 14.99% Eliminated.
Last on: One Direction 17.38% Highest percentage of the whole show for them (Excluding final)

Rebecca, Mary, Matt, Cher, One Direction

then

Matt 35.84
Mary 14.99
Cher 11.57
Rebecca 20.22
One Direction 17.38


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I purposely did not include the final. As the votes opened at the start of the show, meaning first/last whatever made not much difference. And during the final, most people have it set in their mind who they will be voting for anyway, regardless of performance :p



Basically, with the exception of Paije in weeks 3&6...the 'death slot' has proved to be just that. Granted some of the acts havent left, but they have still done considerably worse in the voting :/

Second on is not good either.

The pimp slot works wonders. Being last on DOES make a difference by the looks of it.

Z 13-12-2010 03:32 AM

I'm gonna read this thread after I post but I just about went into hysteria thinking you'd done the exact same thing as me again Vicky; I've spent the past 45 minutes looking at the order they were called through and comparing that to how they ranked in the voting rofl.

Z 13-12-2010 03:35 AM

Interesting, very interesting. What you've posted definitely highlights the more subtle ways of fixing the competition, it runs a lot deeper than positive/negative editing of contestants pre-competition. I was surprised, actually, that F.Y.D. were 14th in the voting despite being on first, and despite the increased number of acts, that's pretty impressive.

Vicky. 13-12-2010 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Zeesus (Post 3992078)
I'm gonna read this thread after I post but I just about went into hysteria thinking you'd done the exact same thing as me again Vicky; I've spent the past 45 minutes looking at the order they were called through and comparing that to how they ranked in the voting rofl.

Oh, didnt even think to do that :laugh:

I bet it turns out they arent really in 'no particular order' :p

joeysteele 13-12-2010 10:10 AM

Thanks Vixen for all these statistics, its good to just see them and see the realities of the results of them with no real spin on them or other 'engineering' of them.

They tell the real story and it shows clerarly that even for the more successful acts, those early slots, singing first, can have a major negative effect on the votes they get,Just as being last on can really boost the positives for the act.

Thank you again for doing them and sharing them with us.

fruit_cake 13-12-2010 10:14 AM

I think I'm correct in adding up, of all of those shows, only one (week 2) wasn't either Cheryl or Simon's act, and 6/8 were Cheryl's acts.

Niamh. 13-12-2010 10:25 AM

Em I think it makes a difference to the contestants who are in the middle popularity wise and downwards, I think the ones who are very popular it doesn't matter so much

fruit_cake 13-12-2010 10:32 AM

maybe if we could see the figures for every single x-factor you might be able to draw some conclusions, but there probably isn't enough statistical data there to confirm it either way

Vicky. 13-12-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NingleBells (Post 3992181)
Em I think it makes a difference to the contestants who are in the middle popularity wise and downwards, I think the ones who are very popular it doesn't matter so much

Oh yeah, I mean with matt, he could have opened the show every week...and would still have 'won' every show. I dont think the order matters later on as much...once there are only a few contestants left, but to me its pretty obvious that it does at the start

Quote:

Originally Posted by christmas_cake (Post 3992184)
maybe if we could see the figures for every single x-factor you might be able to draw some conclusions, but there probably isn't enough statistical data there to confirm it either way

Erm yeah, I really cba doing it for every series, sorry :laugh:

Z 13-12-2010 04:59 PM

I really wish they'd release the voting data for series 3 and 4, I don't really care about 1+2 but it would be interesting to compare Leona to Matt, see if she was doing well in the voting like Matt was.

fruit_cake 13-12-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vixen (Post 3992782)
Erm yeah, I really cba doing it for every series, sorry :laugh:

I wasn't really expecting you too. That would be why I used the words maybe, might and probably in my post.

Mystic Mock 13-12-2010 10:04 PM

looking at that it clearly proves why katie beat aiden and paije at least once.

MusicXian 15-12-2010 10:56 AM

Interestng really. First or second on does seem something of a deathwish.


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