Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4075639)

seems right to me

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 4075645)

this

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4075674)

I think it's wrong, you cant treat kids differently in every single respect throughout society and then treat him no differently than an adult in the justice system. You cant and shouldnt compare a child murderer to an adult murderer imo..

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 4075676)

I'm pretty sure they both know what they are doing though.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4075639)

seems right to me

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 4075676)

I'm pretty sure they both know what they are doing though.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4075684)

End a life you should get life.

Jk lol I don't see things that black and white. The kid was eleven. He could have been helped and rehabilitated through extensive mental therapy to mould him into a functionable member of society. There was plenty of time. What's not to say he had a horrible upbringing and could have changed completely in a few years? It happens to drug addicts doesn't it? It happens to grown men and women when they 'find god' in the space of a day at the truck stop.


Yeah they both known in the visceral, immediate sense that they are ending a life ... but the difference in implications and world view etc between an adult and a child are endless.

Your brain doesn't stop developing at eleven, you know. Eleven year olds don't represent the current apex of human thought and understanding.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4075684)

End a life you should get life.

Jk lol I don't see things that black and white. The kid was eleven. He could have been helped and rehabilitated through extensive mental therapy to mould him into a functionable member of society. There was plenty of time. What's not to say he had a horrible upbringing and could have changed completely in a few years? It happens to drug addicts doesn't it? It happens to grown men and women when they 'find god' in the space of a day at the truck stop.


Yeah they both known in the visceral, immediate sense that they are ending a life ... but the difference in implications and world view etc between an adult and a child are endless.

Your brain doesn't stop developing at eleven, you know. Eleven year olds don't represent the current apex of human thought and understanding.

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4075786)

Jon Venables is a living testament as to how a vicious 10 year old child killer, despite being given every chance of rehabilitation, and every help in establishing a new identity and a new life, grows up and continues to offend, secure in the knowledge that our pathetic justice system will continue to make excuses for him, and do gooders will continue to fall over themselves to "explain" his despicable crimes and offer him "rehabilitation".

I doubt Jamie Bulger's parents give a rat's behind as to whether the two scumbags who killed their 2 year old son without an ounce of compassion or remorse, "turn their lives around".

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4075827)

Those damn do gooders! Always trying to do good!

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4075786)

Jon Venables is a living testament as to how a vicious 10 year old child killer, despite being given every chance of rehabilitation, and every help in establishing a new identity and a new life, grows up and continues to offend, secure in the knowledge that our pathetic justice system will continue to make excuses for him, and do gooders will continue to fall over themselves to "explain" his despicable crimes and offer him "rehabilitation".

I doubt Jamie Bulger's parents give a rat's behind as to whether the two scumbags who killed their 2 year old son without an ounce of compassion or remorse, "turn their lives around".

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4075639)

seems right to me

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 4075645)

this

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 4075646)

that

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4075691)

Probably only right. The kid is 13 now and if he is showing no signs of remorse he won't change. He's best kept away from Society

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 4075693)

This.

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4076010)

Well I'm sure he will be closely watched, and they know the signs to look out for. There isn't really that much information on the case or his upbringing, or what he's done for two years. The the fact he pleaded "not guilty" surely says something. If he's in for say 20 years and let out it could end up even worse.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4076101)

I imagine he didn't handle his own legal case.