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karezza 05-03-2011 09:12 AM

Queen to visit eire
 
Her Majesty the Queen is to visit Eire. Will the Eire populace protest against this gracious visit?

:hugesmile:

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 09:15 AM

First off, it's Ireland. And second, we've got more important things to worry about. I hope she enjoys her visit.

karezza 05-03-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4149493)
First off, it's Ireland. And second, we've got more important things to worry about. I hope she enjoys her visit.

Sinn Fein plan to hurl potatoes at her - it is a disgrace.

arista 05-03-2011 09:43 AM

How very nice for the Old and Young folks of Eire.

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by karezza (Post 4149495)
Sinn Fein plan to hurl potatoes at her - it is a disgrace.

Potatoes?! Aren't they softening in their old age.......................

Pyramid* 05-03-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by karezza (Post 4149492)
Her Majesty the Queen is to visit Eire. Will the Eire populace protest against this gracious visit?

:hugesmile:

How utterly enthralling.

Angus 05-03-2011 02:18 PM

Seeing as how Eire were quick enough to snatch the £7 billion bail out from the UK to prop up their economy, the very least they can do is to treat the Queen with respect and give her a warm welcome.

Sinn Fein are definitely going soft - it used to be bombs they threw, not potatoes.

BB_Eye 05-03-2011 02:27 PM

Times have moved on. They prefer her to the Pope now... understandably.

Shaun 05-03-2011 03:56 PM

well she is much fitter.

Ramsay 05-03-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4149693)
well she is much fitter.

:joker:

'Conor 05-03-2011 04:01 PM

eww.

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4149643)
Seeing as how Eire were quick enough to snatch the £7 billion bail out from the UK to prop up their economy, the very least they can do is to treat the Queen with respect and give her a warm welcome.

Sinn Fein are definitely going soft - it used to be bombs they threw, not potatoes.

I dunno.................. taking inflation into consideration and all, I think the UK probably got off lightly for 700 years or raping our livestock, crops and natural resources................................. €7 billion sounds like a steal

Angus 05-03-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4149718)
I dunno.................. taking inflation into consideration and all, I think the UK probably got off lightly for 700 years or raping our livestock, crops and natural resources................................. €7 billion sounds like a steal

Nah, I think the atrocities committed by the IRA are enough revenge for anyone to exact, without resorting to daylight robbery as well. If you want to be independent that means paying your own bills.

Shaun 05-03-2011 04:28 PM

yay, irish/british tension that never really goes anywhere since none of those still alive on either side are directly accountable for said atrocities (well, the IRA...maybe...)

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4149733)
Nah, I think the atrocities committed by the IRA are enough revenge for anyone to exact, without resorting to daylight robbery as well. If you want to be independent that means paying your own bills.

Politically independent, financially tied into the EU, as is the UK. And the major banking interests who fuelled the outlandish lending here and in so many other countries are scattered across Europe. This is a global issue and culpability knows no traditional geographic boundaries.
Oh, and there were atrocities on both sides. I'm no apologist for the IRA and have spent most of the last week ranting at anyone who would listen about the dangerously significant protest vote Sinn Fein picked up in our national election.
However, in a historical context - which is what I was addressing - they didn't lick all that anger off the ground, you know. A great many people who comment on this would do well to read up a bit on the genesis of the republican movement in Northern Ireland.
Also, I'm a citizen of the Republic of Ireland and the activities of a small number of extremists does not speak for me or settle any debts on my score - no more than those who most recently planted bombs on London busses spoke for you.

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4149735)
yay, irish/british tension that never really goes anywhere since none of those still alive on either side are directly accountable for said atrocities (well, the IRA...maybe...)

Were you paying attention to the recent report into the Bloody Sunday atrocities by the paras?

joeysteele 05-03-2011 05:02 PM

All Nations have some reasons for holding negative thoughts to certain things and people visiting their country where in history there has been tensions.
English hands in history are very far from clean as to the Republic of Ireland too.

However the President of Ireland has invited the Queen to the Nation and she has accepted,naturally some will welcome the visit,others not so, that does not mean necessarily disrespect to the Queen but its only natural there will be some reservations to the visit.

Whatever any protests may take, I am sure they will be lower key protests but as I said English(and I am English) hands are far from clean as to our treatment of the Irish in parts of history so it is never likely our Monarch would be welcomed by everyone there.

I hope in the end it goes well for her and all the great people of the Republic of Ireland too.

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4149771)
All Nations have some reasons for holding negative thoughts to certain things and people visiting their country where in history there has been tensions.
English hands in history are very far from clean as to the Republic of Ireland too.

However the President of Ireland has invited the Queen to the Nation and she has accepted,naturally some will welcome the visit,others not so, that does not mean necessarily disrespect to the Queen but its only natural there will be some reservations to the visit.

Whatever any protests may take, I am sure they will be lower key protests but as I said English(and I am English) hands are far from clean as to our treatment of the Irish in parts of history so it is never likely our Monarch would be welcomed by everyone there.

I hope in the end it goes well for her and all the great people of the Republic of Ireland too.

Thanks for that very fair post. I think she'll get a cordial, courteous welcome. The suggestion earlier in the thread that Ireland is somehow beholden to England because of the EU/IMF Euro rescue package - because that's what it was, a self-serving currency rescue package - riled me. I should know better.
In any event, that issue has nothing to do with the Queen visiting Ireland. I have little interest in the Queen or the rest of her family but, as I said earlier, I hope she enjoys her visit.

joeysteele 05-03-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4149840)
Thanks for that very fair post. I think she'll get a cordial, courteous welcome. The suggestion earlier in the thread that Ireland is somehow beholden to England because of the EU/IMF Euro rescue package - because that's what it was, a self-serving currency rescue package - riled me. I should know better.
In any event, that issue has nothing to do with the Queen visiting Ireland. I have little interest in the Queen or the rest of her family but, as I said earlier, I hope she enjoys her visit.

You are welcome,I am sure the visit will go well. As to any EU/IMF rescue package,well the UK has had to have IMF assistance in the past too and if the UK has contributed to the rescue package decreed by the EU for the Republic of Ireland,then I for one am glad to see the UK doing something for one of our closer neighbours in the World rather than shifting massive funds to all and sundryall over the globe elesewhere.
I think you had some justification to be a little angry.
I too also think the Queen will get a courteous welcome, the Irish are well known for their hospitality.

Jessica. 05-03-2011 06:34 PM

I think the woman is okay I suppose, if she wants to visit Ireland it's not really a big deal, Irish people are awful though, some kids will probably try to petrol bomb whichever form of transportation she uses. Irish children are brought up to hate the queen and to hate the English, I know it's wrong but people are automatically against anything the queen does, I know she wasn't even born, so I can't possibly dislike her. Hopefully everything will go well during her visit, I have nothing against her or the rest of her family personally.

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 4149924)
I think the woman is okay I suppose, if she wants to visit Ireland it's not really a big deal, Irish people are awful though, some kids will probably try to petrol bomb whichever form of transportation she uses. Irish children are brought up to hate the queen and to hate the English, I know it's wrong but people are automatically against anything the queen does, I know she wasn't even born, so I can't possibly dislike her. Hopefully everything will go well during her visit, I have nothing against her or the rest of her family personally.

Irish people are amongst the best educated in the world. You, on the other hand, went through an education system that conveniently ignores all of England's 'activities' in Ireland.
Oh, and for the first time since I joined TiBBs, reported.

Stu 05-03-2011 06:40 PM

I'm going to seek her out and sex her up. Rawr.

Stu 05-03-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4149937)
Irish people are amongst the best educated in the world. You, on the other hand, went through an education system that conveniently ignores all of England's 'activities' in Ireland.
Oh, and for the first time since I joined TiBBs, reported.

She's from Limerick.

patsylimerick 05-03-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4149945)
She's from Limerick.

You have seriously got to be kidding me? The only assumption I can now make is that she's under 12.

Stu 05-03-2011 06:44 PM

I think she has a point. Irish kids are thick. Most kids are. They will be gatheting in their droves to throw empty coke bottles and cigarette butts as close as they can at the proceedings.

I'm from Cork, I should mention. Huns out etc.


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