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arista 15-03-2011 06:54 PM

Midsomer Murders only white actors says the producer
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ducer-race-row

"The producer of one of ITV1's best-known crime dramas, Midsomer Murders, has been suspended from his job after he suggested in an interview that there was no place in the programme for ethnic minorities and it was the 'last bastion of Englishness'. "


Yes the producer has said it the wrong way

Its sold worldwide.


I am sure the new series will have non whites.

MTVN 15-03-2011 07:22 PM

Pretty tactless thing to say, he might have a point in that most rural English villages are predominantly white, but it's stupid to deny any ethnic minorities a role in the show

Zippy 15-03-2011 07:41 PM

well shows have a right to cast whichever actors are appropriate for the roles. If the show is set in a place where there would not be any ethnic minorities then they have a right to not cast ethnic minorities. To say otherwise just goes against the whole principle of role casting.

but he maybe should have been more tactful with his wording.

MTVN 15-03-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4160998)
well shows have a right to cast whichever actors are appropriate for the roles. If the show is set in a place where there would not be any ethnic minorities then they have a right to not cast ethnic minorities. To say otherwise just goes against the whole principle of role casting.

but he maybe should have been more tactful with his wording.

I agree but then again the village is a fictional one and though it is meant to be a rural location it's not exactly unlikely that there would be non-whites there. I'm not saying they should be forced to employ other races but it seems a bit of a flimsy reason to justify making an all-white cast a necessity

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 15-03-2011 07:48 PM

Look i'm black and I sometimes agree that not all shows need to have ethnic minorities.

Shaun 15-03-2011 07:49 PM

at risk of pandering to clichés I would say most rural villages / towns are heavily white. Even here in Torquay, I can't say I notice much diversity (our biggest other nationality is Polish, I think). So I'd say it's pretty accurate to have an all-white cast.

Besides, pretty much every character is killed off anyway so what does it matter :laugh:

arista 15-03-2011 07:55 PM

Storm In A Teacup
the locals said

On Ch4 News

MTVN 15-03-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4161011)
at risk of pandering to clichés I would say most rural villages / towns are heavily white. Even here in Torquay, I can't say I notice much diversity (our biggest other nationality is Polish, I think). So I'd say it's pretty accurate to have an all-white cast.

Besides, pretty much every character is killed off anyway so what does it matter :laugh:

I live in a really small rural village and the extent of our ethnic diversity is one Filipino lady. I think it was his wording that is the problem here really

Zippy 15-03-2011 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4161002)
I agree but then again the village is a fictional one and though it is meant to be a rural location it's not exactly unlikely that there would be non-whites there. I'm not saying they should be forced to employ other races but it seems a bit of a flimsy reason to justify making an all-white cast a necessity

yes its fictional which is why they have a right to portray whatever they want to portray.

just like many gritty urban dramas deliberately cast ethnics to portray a hard hitting innercity slab of modern life, MM has a right to portray a more white, middle-class slab of life.

I don't watch it btw.

MTVN 15-03-2011 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4161034)
yes its fictional which is why they have a right to portray whatever they want to portray.

just like many gritty urban dramas deliberately cast ethnics to portray a hard hitting innercity slab of modern life, MM has a right to portray a more white, middle-class slab of life.

I don't watch it btw.

Nah I dont watch it either but I think it's a fictional location that is supposed to be your typical English village, it's not that unreasonable to expect other races nowadays even if most are predominantly white. I dont expect them to have to employ a large number of ehtnic minorities, but I dont see why it's imperative for the cast to be exlcusively white. Describing it as the "last bastion of Englishness" was never going to go down well either

Zippy 15-03-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4161043)
Describing it as the "last bastion of Englishness" was never going to go down well either

:joker:

I think he meant a very undiluted tea n crumpets n cricket (n murder) Englishness. Which, I think, is the vibe the show goes for.

arista 16-03-2011 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4161060)
:joker:

I think he meant a very undiluted tea n crumpets n cricket (n murder) Englishness. Which, I think, is the vibe the show goes for.

Yes its a Fantasy
with a vision sold to worldwide TV as English.



The Producer is not the PR
he has got this is a mess.

But is publicity ,at any cost ,his aim?

The New Series , which starts with a new younger star (Neil Dudgeon)
playing the Chief Detective
is on Wednesday 1st Episode is called "Death In the Slow Lane"


Life In The City.

30stone 16-03-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4160998)
well shows have a right to cast whichever actors are appropriate for the roles. If the show is set in a place where there would not be any ethnic minorities then they have a right to not cast ethnic minorities. To say otherwise just goes against the whole principle of role casting.

but he maybe should have been more tactful with his wording.

This.

karezza 16-03-2011 10:31 AM

There was an eskimo in episode 1 series 3.

arista 16-03-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 4161453)
There was an eskimo in episode 1 series 3.


Yes


http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content...3/15953060.jpg

Todays Front page
of this paper is wrong.
As the Producer is not the Writer.


Non Whites will be in the new series

arista 23-03-2011 06:09 PM

Midsomer Murders co-creator to step down at end of current series

'Brian True-May had been reinstated by TV company after apologising for saying show was 'last bastion of Englishness'


Very Clever of ITV so the big mouth producer finishes off this current series
then leaves.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ue-may-english

bananarama 24-03-2011 02:43 AM

I don't watch the series.......However if a series is set in the past and in that past and type of location there were no ethnic minorities then the producers have every right to keep it historically accurate.......They also have the right to say why without being censored by political correctness freaks.......

karezza 25-03-2011 12:08 PM

Why are there no aborigines in Neighbours?

Crimson Dynamo 25-03-2011 12:18 PM

The mistake the guy made was to vocalise what lots of tv people do as a matter of course

arista 25-03-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 4169436)
Why are there no aborigines in Neighbours?


there are
in the background.

Shaun 25-03-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 4169436)
Why are there no aborigines in Neighbours?

:laugh2: zing.


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