Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4173790)

They lasted longer than I thought but as all the deals dried up this doesn't surprise me one bit and in fact most JJames haters on the forum only give it a year at the most, it hasn't lasted 9 months really.

Josie should have seen though it as a sham really,I hope he is off to Oz again.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4173794)

It's probably not what it seems but the OK cover page includes the teaser "The Man Who Came Between Us" ..... :evilgrin:

Originally Posted by James (Post 4173821)

I had a read of the magazine in the shop today (not buying OK lol) and it seemed very real and genuine words. I must have half a brain cell :p but I'm sure it wasn't a fake relationship. It's just that they weren't happy enough living together (in the real world), life in the real world is very different to the Big Brother house.

Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 4173857)

Hoorah, hopefully we will no longer have to hear about these 2 ever again now. :hugesmile:

Originally Posted by Suze (Post 4173855)

The pair also admitted the last time they truly felt happy together was when they were in the reality TV house together.

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Originally Posted by cub (Post 4173869)

The reason he had a go at Rachael (about mag deals etc) was really a case of projection. She was only saying what he wanted - and he kicked off at her, but secretly wanted those things as well. Which has since been proved.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4173827)

am saying nowt James, am saying nowt. :wink: :)

Honestly, I'd bet my next 10 years salary that it was nothing more than a major publicity stunt. I could of course be wrong, but I've truly never seen such a more contrived 'relationship' - well: Luke and Becks, KP and this Leonardo.... am sure you'll catch my drift.

Originally Posted by James (Post 4173888)

I think if it did turn out to be one big stunt they'd deserve applauding for the prank of the decade, to be honest.

Originally Posted by James (Post 4173888)

I think if it did turn out to be one big stunt they'd deserve applauding for the prank of the decade, to be honest.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4173897)

Prank? I'd call it defrauding the innocent and naive fans - how many of them fell for this? How many spent good money on merchandise, magazine, goings to PA's, buying all the cheap tat and conning their fans in the belief that this was a romance?

Oh they had a relationship alright, of that I don't doubt. Strictly business and a highly deceptive business relationship at that. Defrauding people really isn't something I warm to. Call me bad but there it is.

Originally Posted by Ultra Violet (Post 4173910)

Indeed ... pretty spot on I think ...

A large number of their fans were not the brightest of sparks (just read their contributions on any forum) and they weren't all schoolgirls by any means, some of their most ardent supporters have admitted today to being old enough to be not just their mothers but their GRANDmothers ...

This really will leave a nasty taste in many mouths ...

I should think that the two of them (if they have any conscience at all - which is debatable at this stage) will be haunted by a slight sense of shame and contamination for the rest of their days ...

This kind of con is never worth it ... people are always found out in the end ... :xyxwave:

Originally Posted by Alicia1993

I’VE BEEN A COW AND HE’S LEFT ME
In their heartbreaking final interview together, the former lovebird’s exclusively reveal their split.

Shellshocked and shaky, Josie Gibson is perched on the edge of her sofa in the London riverside pad she shared with her boyfriend John James Parton as she tells us, “He’s left me”. When we arrive at the flat, John James is next door, packing his bags for Australia. When he enters the room, Josie stretches out an arm to touch him and he smiles sadly and softly in her direction. You could cut the pain with a knife.
As word of their relationship’s demise begins to filter out from camp JJJ, Josie and John James have arranged, at the last minute, to have OK’s Andrew Fraser over to share the true story of their break up. Our chief feature writer has forged a close friendship with the pair following their stint on Big Brother last year. “I know so much crap is going to be written about this” says Josie. “I think we owe it to everyone to just say it like it is”.
The trouble is, the dust has barely settled on John James’ decision to leave the woman he first met 10 months ago on Big Brother and return to Oz. From where OK is standing, neither John James nor Josie can quite believe it has come to this. Feistiness and fieriness, frequent factors in their passionate relationship, have turned to bitterness and bile. “It’s become nasty”, says Josie. “We can’t carry on like this”, adds John James. It’s a rare moment of agreement.
But when OK sits down to chat with the pair, the conversation soon descends into acrimony. “She’s jealous”, he snipes. “He’s boring”, she grumbles. Weirdly, through all the anger, there are some typically funny and tender moments. Josie and John James clearly still love each other. It just seems that, in their case, love is not enough.

What on earth has happened?
J: I’ve been a cow.
JJ: I was put in a position where there didn’t really seem like there was anything else I could do. Maybe it seems like a rash decision, but I have to go.
J: John told me 2 days ago that he’s had enough and is going.

Will you come back, John?
JJ: Honestly? That depends on Josie. I may never come back.

What brought this to a head?
JJ: We were about to commit to living together for longer. I thought, why are we signing on to do this for another year when we can’t be around each other? The trouble is, our lives are so interlinked because of our careers, so when we fell out, instead of sorting things out in our own time, we were forced to patch things up quickly because we had to go to a premiere together.

Your fans love you as a couple and will be gutted to hear what has happened. Has this made it harder in a way?
JJ: We’re gutted too, but we can’t stay together just because the fans want us too.
J: Some people can’t wait for me and John to break up. But, you know, I’ve got no one to blame for this but myself.

You seem to be taking an awful lot of the rap for this, Josie. Are you being fair on yourself?
J: John has said things which have really, really upset me. But my temper is way out of line, I threw a lipstick at you, didn’t I John?
JJ: And a shoe. And a coat hanger.

So it’s gradually getting to be heavier stuff Josie...
JJ: She picked up a vase one time. But thank God she put it back down. I’ve suggested living in London and she can go back to Bristol. She says she will never speak to me again if that happens.
Josie: I just think, you go and live in your separate house with JJ and do all your special things with him. All the things you never wanted to do with me.

Has JJ come between you now he’s been living with you for a few weeks?
J: [sighs] It was my idea that he moved in. I thought it would be company for him, because John doesn’t really like going out. I mean, you don’t like doing anything, do you John?
JJ: Not really, no. But those problems don’t begin with JJ. When me and Josie were fighting, he was always there. So if I need to get out of the house and have a chat, I could go with him – he was someone to talk to.
J: But you won’t do anything with me, will you, though? He doesn’t like going out.
JJ: That’s the point. She thinks I don’t like doing things with her, but I just don’t like doing things in general. I’m not going to sit here and lie and say I enjoy them. I’m not going to pretend that I want to go on the London Eye with you, because I don’t. I couldn’t care less about views and things like that.
J: We’re trapped in this flat. He doesn’t even like the curtains open. He doesn’t like daylight.
JJ: Look, if she wants to organise stuff like Madame Tussauds, I’m happy to go. But she can’t expect me to be excited about it.

Maybe you need to pull your finger out a little bit, John...
JJ: But that would be like me asking her to come down and play football with me.

Josie could come and watch you play football and you could go to Madame Tussauds with her?
JJ: She is an adventurous person, she wants to go off on hot air balloons and James Bond boat rides down the Thames and I can’t think of anything worse. She wouldn’t want to play football with me any more than I would want to go and do crappy things like that with her.
J: I have been getting more and more bitter that he won’t do those things with me.
JJ: But I wouldn’t want to do that stuff with anyone! I can’t change who I am. I can’t pretend to be excited about stuff like that.
J: But I see you going up the road with JJ and I think, oh, you can go out with him, but you can’t go out with me.
JJ: I only went to KFC and back!
J: Apart from work commitments, John has been out twice since he left the BB house. He hates going out.
JJ: She can go out on 3-day benders. I can’t think of anything wore. She likes going out and getting drunk. She is hanging off the chandeliers. I hate parties.
J: I’m the goose and he’s the pigeon – geese fly for miles but pigeons can’t wait to fly home.

And was JJ the cuckoo?
JJ: He stays out the way, to be fair.
J: No he doesn’t! I got bitter because John spent a lot of his time with JJ and I was getting nothing from John. Nothing. And I was getting angrier and angrier.

You have a beautiful woman here, John – what’s going on with you and JJ?
JJ: It’s not that I don’t want to do things with you, Josie. I’m just not interested in the things you want to do, like hot air ballooning and s**t like that. I can’t be ******ed. I’m not going to sit here and lie. I’d rather sit here and watch films. I don’t want to go out on benders. I’ve been drunk 6 times in my life. She’s been drunk more times since I’ve known her than that.
J: It’s pure boredom, John.
JJ: [Rolls eyes] She gets bored very easily.
J: Don’t make me out to be a raging alcoholic, John.
JJ: When you drink, you drink.
J: But when you’ve got a bloke who gives you nothing, it pushes you away.
JJ: So I’ve pushed you to the drink, have I, Josie?
J: I’ve been out drinking about 5 times since we came out of BB. You would think I go out every weekend and get obliterated.
JJ: She don’t stop. She will drink till all hours in the morning. And I don’t have a problem with that – she can get drunk every night as long as she doesn’t involve me, but she does. She comes into my room singing Batman songs and flicking the light switch at 4 in the morning. [John sighs] I have been called boring, I reckon, 500 times.
J: A lot of it was me erupting to get his attention.
JJ: There is nothing worse than being in a taxi full of people and I’m sober and she’s off her rocker, going: “You’re like a stale bowl of p***”.
J: [Shoots a withering glance] I wasn’t drunk when I said that, actually.

You both sound so angry; will it be a relief when you are finally parted?
J: I think it will be.
JJ: For me it will be, yeah. When I decided I was going home I though, that’s it. I’ve been umming and ahhing for so long. She’s saying I don’t care, giving it the Charlie Big Potatoes, and you get to thinking, well, maybe that’s it. I’m going. I’ve had enough of being up and down like a yo-yo.

But you still love each other, right?
J: Yes.
JJ: Mmm. I just think going back will give her time to think about how she treats me. I can’t be over here and feel insecure.
J: Maybe if you had given me a bit of attention this wouldn’t be happening. If you had made me feel a bit wanted.
JJ: And when do you make me feel wanted, Josie?
J: I’m not making you feel wanted if you’re not making me feel wanted John.
JJ: And vice versa.
J: [Sighs] It’s tit for bloody tat. All the bloody time.

If you ever come back, would you consider going to relationship counselling?
JJ: We would both go for counselling, but I wouldn’t want to be the counsellor. I think he will get something thrown at him. If it’s a bloke she will hurl something at him. And if it is a girl, she will probably think she fancies me.
J: [Shoots him another angry glance] No I wouldn’t.
JJ: You always think that with every girl I speak to.
J: You’re talking b*****ks, John. I say it to make you feel better about yourself.
JJ: She gives some of them pure evils. She goes psycho.
J: I’ve never gone psycho John, don’t lie. You try and make me feel insecure John.
JJ: You gave some girls the evils at your birthday. She came up to me: “Who the ******* are you talking to?”
J: You’re lying, just trying to make me look bad.
JJ: You ask JJ!
J: Oh yeah. He’s up your ass anyway, John. And you’re up his ass as well. And this is what the real problem is.
JJ: You are a compulsive liar, Josie.
J: He is just sitting there saying what a bad person I am. Alright John, I have admitted it, I am 100% to blame for everything that has gone wrong between us. I admit I’ve pushed you away. You don’t have to sit there and go on about how bad I am. My insecurities have pushed you away – I know. But when you have a bloke who doesn’t show you any affection and don’t give you attention, then sometimes you get a bit p***ed off and insecure. [Josie leaves the room]

When do you fly, John?
JJ: Tomorrow.

Are you going to be alright?
JJ: I’ll be fine. You just saw how quickly things blow up. That’s how easy it happens. If she hears something she doesn’t like, she goes ballistic.

As an outsider, it’s clear neither of you will concede any ground...
JJ: We won’t give an inch.

It’s like a power struggle. You both just want to score the point...
JJ: Rather than listen? Yes, it’s true. It’s out of hand now. More often than not she will realise she is not being fair. When she cools down and apologises for what she’s said, I will still argue the point. I will still say, you know I was right about that.

How long are you going to be in Australia for, John?
JJ: If this kind of thing continues when I’m overseas, which it has done in the past, I may never come back. [John looks sad as Josie enters the room]

Do you still think John’s The One, Josie?
J: I’d like to think it. But we just fight all the time.

Is Josie The One, John?
JJ: Not if she behaves like this, no.
J: How am I meant to cope John, sitting there listening to you saying how bad I am for ages?
JJ: I didn’t lie.
J: You did, John.

On a scale of 1 to 10, what are the chances of you two being a couple this time next year?
J: A four?
JJ: Well if it’s a four, there is no point in me coming back, is there? I’m not coming back for a girl who gives our chances a four out of ten.
J: A five?
JJ: If she’s not certain, what’s the point?
J: A seven?

Do you worry he may meet another girl when he goes to Australia, Josie?
JJ: Yes, because John don’t mess about when it comes to having girlfriends. He meets girls really quickly. But if he meets someone and they make him happy, then you can’t say fairer than that.

When was the last time you felt really happy together?
JJ: Big Brother?

If you don’t come back, will you leave the celebrity lifestyle behind you, John?
JJ: Yes, definitely, I’m not interested. It’s nice to know that some people genuinely care about what I do with my life, but it’s not the be all and end all for me. It’s not an issue for me to be famous, it never has been.

How will you feel is John never come back, Josie?
J: Gutted really, heartbroken. But then again, he can’t come back to this, can he?

It was John’s decision to go...
J: Yes, but I probably pushed him to it.

John, some would say you need to stay here and sort out your relationship...
JJ: And if this was the first time, or the first 50 times, that we have reached breaking point, I would agree. But it’s got to the 180th time. I am too mentally drained.
J: We are both mentally drained.
JJ: To be honest, I don’t think she ever thought I would do this. She thought she had a tool she could use against me, always threatening me with the end, to keep me in line.
J: I have said it three times. [John rolls his eyes] And I never really meant it. I just thought, if I say it, he might sort himself out. But he never did. [Josie’s eyes fill with tears] He just left me.

So are you teaching her a lesson, John?
JJ: In a way I am, yes. I am not going to lie about that.
J: It’s a really harsh lesson John, leaving me on my own. You didn’t have to go this far.
JJ: I didn’t want this.
J: I’ve learned my lesson, can you not just stay?
JJ: If I didn’t go, she would just carry on the way she has.
J: [Laughs] I won’t. I’m not going to moan about anything ever again.

So will you stay here in the flat with JJ then Josie?
J: [Raises an eyebrow] No.
JJ: That would be interesting.

Where’s he going?
J: Peterborough. [Bitterly] John’s given him his car. He’s got a nice £16k motor, so he’ll be okay. You have taught me your lesson John. Now, can you just unpack your bags! Please!
JJ: She’s already told me if I go back she is going to be really bitter towards me. But there is no way she will stop me now. It has lifted so much tension off me knowing I’m leaving.
J: So he’s left me stuck in the tension instead.

Maybe you will be better apart, Josie?
J: Yes, that might be the case.
JJ: And that’s why I’m taking my stuff. Because she might get bitter with me...
J: I will not chuck all your stuff in the Thames, John. I can’t believe you think that of me.

What could you change about yourselves to make this relationship work?
J: [Looks at John] Stop being a ******? [shrieks with laughter]
JJ: We wrote out a contract of things to change and she didn’t stick to any of hers.
J: I did. I stopped p***ing with the door open.
JJ: That was the only thing.

At least it wasn’t a number two, Josie...
J: Exactly. I would never have done a number two with the door open. I’m ladylike. I’m worried he is going to Australia and I am going to be left here trying to sort everything out.
JJ: You deserve it. I honestly believe she deserves everything that has happened to her and me going back to Australia. I do feel sorry for her. But how much am I expected to take?

Do you think absence will make the heart grow fonder?
JJ: It could go either way. Which is why I’m taking all my stuff with me. I just want to see my mum and my mates now.
What will you do now, Josie?
J: I need to find a home. Then I’ll probably go out and buy a dog and call it John James. And it will never leave me. Because I will train it not to.