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Niamh. 01-04-2011 03:14 PM

Adam and Eve and the garden of Eden
 
Did anybody watch that documentary about this that was on earlier in the week? I can't remember what it was called but I thought it was a very interesting and viable explanation for the story

Shasown 01-04-2011 04:51 PM

Nope

Niamh. 01-04-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4178419)
Nope

lol, nobody but me it seems:joker:

GypsyGoth 01-04-2011 07:36 PM

I did, I thought it was brilliant. I'm surprised she hasn't got death threats yet. It seems their holy stories were twisted to be anti-women.

I watched another one last week, it was just as good.

Locke. 01-04-2011 07:38 PM

Our very own Adam and Eve

http://i56.tinypic.com/28vpouv.jpg

Niamh. 01-04-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 4178650)
I did, I thought it was brilliant. I'm surprised she hasn't got death threats yet. It seems their holy stories were twisted to be anti-women.

I watched another one last week, it was just as good.

yeah, it was so interesting, I'm sure that there's probably logical explanations for alot of those bible stories

Stu 01-04-2011 07:43 PM

Yeah, there is. The stories are horseshit.

I have not seen the show but assume it's one of those type of things that desperately, deaperately try to give The Bible some credit by de literalizing and metaphoring the hell out of passages to the point where it's no longer The Bible and you could twist any old crap to mean any other old crap.

'Oh well what they clearly actually mean is'

fuck right off.

GypsyGoth 01-04-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4178658)
yeah, it was so interesting, I'm sure that there's probably logical explanations for alot of those bible stories

The other one I seen she was looking at gods wife and what power she had. And how she was written out of the bible.

GypsyGoth 01-04-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4178662)
Yeah, there is. The stories are horseshit.

I have not seen the show but assume it's one of those type of things that desperately, deaperately try to give The Bible some credit by de literalizing and metaphoring the hell out of passages to the point where it's no longer The Bible and you could twist any old crap to mean any other old crap.

'Oh well what they clearly actually mean is'

fuck right off.

It kinda said that it was just chance where the Adam and Eve story appeared in the bible, so it wasn't meant to be a creation myth, and how there is no mention of the apple or snake in the original hebrew text. And how the garden was possible in jerusalem,

Niamh. 01-04-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4178662)
Yeah, there is. The stories are horseshit.

I have not seen the show but assume it's one of those type of things that desperately, deaperately try to give The Bible some credit by de literalizing and metaphoring the hell out of passages to the point where it's no longer The Bible and you could twist any old crap to mean any other old crap.

'Oh well what they clearly actually mean is'

fuck right off.

not really no, it was basically explaining what they think was literally meant by the Adam and Eve story. They think that Adam was a King and the garden was an actual place, that in those times people thought that "the Gods" communicated through the king and they used to build sacred gardens where no one but the Gods and the king were allowed enter. Basically they think the story was about a particular king who was over thrown, therefore expelled from the sacred garden. Eve was apparently added later, she wasn't in the original version

Stu 01-04-2011 08:27 PM

Sounds just like what I described more or less.

Jesus spoke of Adam & Eve and the garden in literal terms. He studied the scriptures as a practicing Jew like others at that time and I highly doubt he believed this clutching at straws version of the tale. You'd think someone would mention it in The Bible somewhere, you know. Given it's so definitive and all that. Some footnotes here and there to let us know which parts are parables and which parts are literal truths would have been handy, big man. It's only the salvation of mankind that's on the line :joker:.

Niamh. 01-04-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4178753)
Sounds just like what I described more or less.

Jesus spoke of Adam & Eve and the garden in literal terms. He studied the scriptures as a practicing Jew like others at that time and I highly doubt he believed this clutching at straws version of the tale. You'd think someone would mention it in The Bible somewhere, you know. Given it's so definitive and all that. Some footnotes here and there to let us know which parts are parables and which parts are literal truths would have been handy, big man. It's only the salvation of mankind that's on the line :joker:.

lol, no It wasn't trying to reinforce "God" at all. That story was written way before and changed and added to the bible to support their God claims where as it was basically a story about something that actually happened to a man (not thee first man) when they used to worship different Gods, it wasn't saying that the God part was true but obviously in those times they would have believed that the king spoke directly to the Gods in his sacred garden

Callum 13-04-2011 04:37 PM

I watched this too. Found it really interesting, I never knew that the Eden story was never originally intended to be at the beginning of the Bible.


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