Originally Posted by TheManWhoLaughs (Post 4563767)

Jonathan BB8 had to leave when his grandma died and he didn't get to come back; Tom definitely shouldn't be allowed to.

You could just do a Jonny Fairplay from Survivor and make up a lie about your grandparents dying just so you get more sympathy from the other players

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI (Post 4563772)

If he goes to the funeral he shouldn't be allowed to come back.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI (Post 4563772)

If he goes to the funeral he shouldn't be allowed to come back.

Originally Posted by Beastie (Post 4563779)

True. It should be a choice of going to the funeral or staying in the BB house.

Wonder how long he was in the task room with his family for when they broke the news to him?

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4563816)

I think someone from BB should go with him if he decides he would like to attend the funeral, no matter where or what I was doing I would want to be at any of my Grandparents and for that matter any family member's funeral.

I would not expect to suffer any penalties for doing so either,some people's lives can get pretty messed up if they miss a close relatives funeral.
He should certainly be at least taken to the service and allowed to return. Even some people in Prisons are allowed to go to funerals of parents,Grandparents.

I doubt BB will be on many peoples minds at the service to say the last goodbyes to a loved family member anyway. He can easily be brought straight back after the service.
He may even would like the honour of helping carry his Grandfathers coffin.I helped carry my Grandmothers and no one would have stopped me going to her funeral.I would have fought tooth and nail against any penalty against me either for attending her funeral though.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4563816)

I think someone from BB should go with him if he decides he would like to attend the funeral, no matter where or what I was doing I would want to be at any of my Grandparents and for that matter any family member's funeral.

I would not expect to suffer any penalties for doing so either,some people's lives can get pretty messed up if they miss a close relatives funeral.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563836)

the horrible cynic in me thinks, how come, within minutes of breaking the news to the hms: was he laughing with them about ''think how much I could get away with, with this....go fetch me a glass of water etc".

Yes, it could have been a flippant comment, but it made me think that either something was not right, or that he was not that close to his grandfather.

I am probably very very wrong, but I'm going to say what I thought.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4564080)

Of course you should say your take on it too, you are very understanding anyway.

I was just putting how I would react and feel, I am only 19 but have seen already many different reactions to deaths of loved ones.

One of my cousins when my Grandmother died decided she wanted us to play monopoly,it was her way of dealing with it and hiding real emotion.

I have friends who went out and got drunk after the loss of a loved one,others just sat there silent not wanting to do anything or see anyone.
Some went quiet or got snappy, others broke down and cried for ages,others made jokes of things and giggled and laughed at silly things.
Life has already taught me that there are no norms as to reactions when someone dies that's close to you but I do believe for sure that BB will have thoroughly checked out everything was fully correct before anyone finally was allowed to and got to talk to Tom in person at the BB house.

He's among virtual strangers, he likely hadn't a clue how to react,just like Aaron and some others who when hearing Tom's Grandfather had died didn't seem to know what to do and say.

If I was running BB he would be asked if he wanted to go to the funeral,if he said he did want to attend it then I would have someone go with him and bring him back after the service,out of basic compassion. The other question is would his Grandfather have wanted him at his funeral, I'd bet of course he would.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4564125)

Oh I realise that we all deal with things differently and I do not find fault in any of what you have described above.

The part I found strange was: this was only 20 MINUTES after the news.

I'm cynical and that's me. I'm not saying I am right, or that he was wrong, we all react very very differently.

I know when I experienced the call to tell me when my first grand parent died: I was about 23? not much older than Tom and as cold and callous as I can be, I still couldn't have cracked a joke in the first 30minutes.

Differnt folks, different stroke, and he is in a very weird situation.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4564141)

He is in a weird situation and place too.

You were 5 years older than me when I lost my Grandmother,I couldn't have cracked jokes either, I went for a very long walk on my own to a lot of the areas I had spent time with my Grandmother at

Also, Pyramid, I could never agree that you could be cold and callous,you are one of the really nicest and most honest people I've come across.