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Callum 22-10-2011 10:36 PM

Were Tulisa and Louis in the right regarding bullygate?
 
Do you think Tulisa and Louis were right to bring up Misha B's apparent bullying of fellow contestants on the live show or do you think it should have been mentioned backstage?

I don't think it should have been mentioned personally, things like that should be left backstage, it felt like a low blow from the two of them and Misha wouldn't have the opportunity to defend herself which I think they were both well aware of. I think there's some truth to what they were saying but I still don't think it should have been brought up on the live show.

thoughts?

Toxic 22-10-2011 10:37 PM

They were so wrong it was unreal!

How dare they bring up a personal issue, which, lets face it, probably isn't half as bad as they made out.

I doubt Mischa bullied anyone, maybe she just came across that way to some of the jealous acts who can't sing...

Tom4784 22-10-2011 10:38 PM

No, it was wildly unprofessional and downright malicious to bring it up as it was an obvious sabotage attempt. If I was Kelly I'd have gone for both of their jugulars over it. It's pretty much turned me against Tulisa completely.

Locke. 22-10-2011 10:38 PM

It was very telling that Kelly and Misha didn't even bother to defend her.. it was obviously true, so yes people deserved to know

Toxic 22-10-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4678004)
No, it was wildly unprofessional and downright malicious to bring it up as it was an obvious sabotage attempt. If I wa Kelly I'd have gone for both of the jugulars over it. It's pretty much turned me against Tulisa completely.

This!

Black Dagger 22-10-2011 10:42 PM

Meh, they had a right to say, while I hate Frankie we are forced to know all his business and he's sabotaged, why should she get away with potentially being a bully?

Tom4784 22-10-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 4678034)
Meh, they had a right to say, while I hate Frankie we are forced to know all his business and he's sabotaged, why should she get away with potentially being a bully?

Because they were bringing an offstage matter to public attention to intentionally harm a contestant's chances, while Frankie's whole gmmick is that he's a wild child.

Tom 22-10-2011 10:44 PM

Kitty is apparently bullying other contestants. Why didn't they pull her up on it? Because shes not a threat to win. Tulisa & Louis were resorting to really dirty tactics. I remember Louis being annoyed with Cheryl last year for pulling up Wagner

Toxic 22-10-2011 10:46 PM

I am so sick about X Factor bullying, chances are she isn't bullying ANYONE. They say this about one girl every year, last year was Cher and it never has any substance behind it, Mischa did actually look really shocked when they brought it up.

GET TULISA OUT

nanaimo 22-10-2011 10:46 PM

bullies should be exposed, thats why they exist in the first place and if it is true, she affects other contestants and damn right louis and tulisa should bring it up.

Jordan. 22-10-2011 10:50 PM

No they weren't. They are there to judge the performances not what goes on in someones personal life. Also the fact Misha wasn't even given time to defend herself was ridiculous.

Tulisa saying she is competative and it comes across as mean to the other contestants... Err it's a competetion, they're not there to sing ring o roses and make eachother daisy chains. If the other contestants can't hack someone been better than them they should **** off.

Toxic 22-10-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan. (Post 4678067)
no they weren't. They are there to judge the performances not what goes on in someones personal life. Also the fact misha wasn't even given time to defend herself was ridiculous.

Tulisa saying she is competative and it comes across as mean to the other contestants... Err it's a competetion, they're not there to sing ring o roses and make eachother daisy chains. If the other contestants can't hack someone been better than them they should **** off.

ex-act-ly!

GypsyGoth 22-10-2011 10:53 PM

It was a strange moment. And unfair on Misha, she couldn't defend herself.

And if Misha is bullying people, I think it'd be maybe the producers job to speak with Misha and sort it out.

Doogle 22-10-2011 10:54 PM

Tulisa doesn't know the difference between being competetive and being a nasty spiteful little bitch.

I really don't like her much now. She was holding back so much before but her real side is coming out now. Can't wait to hear all the gossip about the judges hating each other. :joker:

Toxic 22-10-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doogle (Post 4678079)
Tulisa doesn't know the difference between being competetive and being a nasty spiteful little bitch.

I really don't like her much now. She was holding back so much before but her real side is coming out now. Can't wait to hear all the gossip about the judges hating each other. :joker:

100% agree!

I actually thought she was alright but tonight she proved to be what I thought she was all along, she is very immature and clearly has no clue about music, axe her next year please.

Vicky. 22-10-2011 10:59 PM

Reminded me a bit of when Cheryl brought up something Wagner had supposedly said about her in the press..after spending weeks saying you shouldnt believe what you read in the papers :bored:

Doogle 22-10-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 4678086)
100% agree!

I actually thought she was alright but tonight she proved to be what I thought she was all along, she is very immature and clearly has no clue about music, axe her next year please.

I liked the idea of having her there as she knows what it's like etc. and she's that young, and I thought she did very well in the auditions and was calm and cool when the acts got mouthy to her. But I knew she was just holding back and not causing a stir. If that had been anywhere else I'd expect her to verbally attack the person back, no question about it.

Now on the live shows, I bet if an act insulted her, she'd get very very angry. They can't edit her to make her look good if she does lash out, and she's finding it difficult to stick to her original act of being calm about it.

Not to mention she's so clueless when it comes to everything. She just has no idea what she's saying.

Lewis. 22-10-2011 11:02 PM

It definitely ended the show on a low, that's for sure. Felt really deflated afterwards.

Jords 22-10-2011 11:26 PM

I think it would be more professional to deal with it offstage, but surely if judges are allowed to comment on positive behaviour backstage then it should be ok to speak about negative aspects?

Maybe the use of 'bully' was harsh and sort of embarrassing for Misha if its an over-exaggeration. I can totally see her being a mardy arse and critical of others but bully? Hmmm...

But both Tulisa and Louis voiced matters on the issue so there must be some truth. They shoulda just worded it 'nicer'.

Locke. 22-10-2011 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4678103)
Reminded me a bit of when Cheryl brought up something Wagner had supposedly said about her in the press..after spending weeks saying you shouldnt believe what you read in the papers :bored:

Saying something horrible about Wagner is like killing a puppy, just look at him

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...xpert.-007.jpg

joeysteele 22-10-2011 11:38 PM

Yes, if she is really causing offence to one or more other acts then if an act was Tulisa's she has every right to raise it, Louis didn't raise it but once Gary and Kelly waded into Tulisa then he confirmed it and gave her his support on the issue.

I don't really care for Misha though.

Sam:) 22-10-2011 11:39 PM

She obviously must be aggressive if Tulisa and contestants are saying and after all bullying needs to be exposed!

Tom4784 23-10-2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4678281)
Yes, if she is really causing offence to one or more other acts then if an act was Tulisa's she has every right to raise it, Louis didn't raise it but once Gary and Kelly waded into Tulisa then he confirmed it and gave her his support on the issue.

I don't really care for Misha though.

She shouldn't have done it in front of millions of people though, it was just a lowly attempt at ruining Misha's chances.

Vicky. 23-10-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam:) (Post 4678417)
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Kerry 23-10-2011 02:31 AM

Not very professional.


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