The USA did elect an atheist president, but has the UK ever elected an atheist PM?
 

Can you guess which American president I'm speaking of? Here are some of his quotes through the years which span over 40 years of his life:

Yes, America once elected this man president (twice). And let him write the Declaration of Indendence. And put him on the nickle and 2 dollar bill. And Mount Rushmore. And he's usually the most loved founding father.

If you don't know by now you really need to brush up on your history but it was

Has the UK ever elected anyone prime minister who made such statements as skeptical of religion as America once did?

Does it really matter?

I just take issue with this perception that we're all religious crackpots.

James Callaghan is the only self-confessed Atheist PM I think although I'm not sure, it's by no means proven that Jefferson was an atheist though, he seems to have just had quite complex religious beliefs and was against organized religion

Jefferson wasn't really an atheist, though he had problems with organized religion, he still believed in a god.

You can never prove or disprove whether Jefferson was an atheist but even the biggest cynic would have to admit that Jefferson flirts with atheism quite a bit.

Jefferson was a deist, which means he believed in a god. Just not in the way most Americans did at the time

The USA did elect an atheist president
 

So they didn't then ..... :conf:

Not as such, no

Has the UK ever elected an atheist PM?
 

As well as James Callaghan KG, PC (1912–2005): British politician, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1976 to 1979 and the only person to have served in all four of the Great Offices of State (mentioned above), there was also Clement Attlee 1st Earl Attlee, KG, OM, CH, PC (1883–1967): Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1945 to 1951, under whose government the National Health Service and Welfare State were established.

Other prominent UK politicians who were/are atheists include :

Bessie Braddock JP (1899–1970): British Labour politician, vice-chairman of the party in 1968.

Charles Clarke (1950–): British Labour Party politician, a Member of Parliament since 1997 and former Home Secretary.

Michael Foot (1913–2010): British politician and writer, leader of the Labour Party 1980–1983.

Roy Hattersley PC (1932–): British Labour Party politician, author and journalist, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party 1983–1992.

Neil Kinnock PC (1942–): British Labour politician, Leader of the Opposition and Labour Party leader 1983–1992.

Ken Livingstone (1945–): Mayor of London 2000-08.

David Miliband (1965–): British Labour politician, Foreign Secretary from 2007 to 2010.

Ed Miliband (1969–): British Labour politician, Leader of the Labour Party from 2010 to the present.

Mo Mowlam (1949–2005): Former Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.

Michael Portillo former British Member of Parliament for the Conservative party, former Minister of Defence.

Clare Short (1946–): British politician, former Labour Secretary of State for International Development.

Someone has a major chip on their shoulder.

a) If British people have made these comments on America, it doesn't mean the entire country agrees.
b) This forum is hardly representative of the people that would have those views with it being a reality television forum with the average member being teen or 20 something.

Stop taking everything so personally and just accept opinions instead of making thread after thread of US vs UK.

What's with the sudden Bash the Brits threads?

Britain is great hence the name Great Britain.

I've never heard of a modern UK PM using their faith to be elected, unlike in America where it is made out to be a big thing

One of my teachers pointed this out.

America is more religous because of the seperation of church and state.

Isn't the queen or the monarchy the head of the church of england?
That's something to think about.

He saw it in some book that was made in 1830 by some frenchman that toured the US.

If it wasn't for religion america wouldn't actually be as "powerful" than they are today.

I'm struggling to understand the apparent contradiction of those statements ...... :conf2:

My thread was about now. I very much doubt the folks who voted for jefferson had any idea at all what his true religious feelings were. Back then it was hard enough to find out about your neighbours.

America is severly hampered by the vile religious far right and jewish lobby.

I realized i screwed up on something

I meant America is religious because of the seperation of church and state.

Whats with all these threads lately about you are not atheist enough! Who the hell cares. You atheists posters actually make it sound like an organized religion ironically.

Yes, people in the US believe in god more than in the UK! So what? Did someone win a prize? Do you think they care about the percentage of atheists!

Some of you guys, are the worst kind of atheist I have ever seen with the sort of subjects you come up with. But obviously most atheists would not want to have anything to do with you.

Blame the yanks on here constantly wanting to get one up on the Brits. They keep starting these threads.

Do you really believe that?> "the yanks' like you call them, have no idea what the hell is going on outside the US, in general. They couldnt care less whats going on here. The UK on the other hand is the complete opposite, just watch tv. Its quite evident who's trying to one up whom, and who really cares.

And even though they are as pointless as each other, this thread was in response to the one about americans, never electing an atheist.

Agin, why do you care?

Do you really believe that?> "the yanks' like you call them, have no idea what the hell is going on outside the US, in general. They couldnt care less whats going on here. The UK on the other hand is the complete opposite, just watch your tv, or read the newspapers. Its quite evident who's trying to one up whom, and who really cares.

And even though they are as pointless as each other, this thread was in response to the one about americans, never electing an atheist.

AgAin, why do you care?

I don't think you have any idea what is going on four feet from your face. Joe is right. If you had been paying attention at all you would have noticed that this isin't really an 'atheist' thing. It's just another one of liberty4eva's apple pie threads about where he's from. Made in response to the one recent thread you are refering to with the atheist overtones. That one recent thread with it's handful of atheist viewpoints.

Run for cover! The atheist religion is taking over the forum with their pretentious ability to type coherently!

So are they basically trolling by making these threads? The OP especially. And I don't care, that wasn't what I was on about...

So youre talking about one poster! There are 2 ridiculous american posters I notice here, who I tend to ignore, this op, and another named lostalex or something, and I dont get why you'd lump them with the whole country, which like I said, couldnt care less.

As for the subject, its so hilarious, bragging about my country is more atheist than yours, or less religious. Like somehow, it makes them better or more intelligent.

To be honest, there are a few posters(2 mainly) on here who feel the need to attack anyone with any sort of criticism of the United States. There really is no need for some of the threads the past two days which are obviously just some sort of 'retaliation' for that atheist president thread.

And I don't think anyone has said one country is smarter than the other because it's more atheist.