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Scarlett. 22-01-2012 09:40 PM

ACTA - Anti-Counterfeit Trade Agreement - To be voted on in EU Parli. on 14th June
 

Smithy 22-01-2012 09:41 PM

6 and a half mins? :sad:

can you condense it into a sentence or two? :joker:

Scarlett. 22-01-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4898899)
6 and a half mins? :sad:

can you condense it into a sentence or two? :joker:

Basically governments what the internet to be heavily watched, and want to straight out ban any kind of copyright breaking, even if you're just promoting someone you like, say, like you signature and avatar.

lostalex 22-01-2012 09:49 PM

why are you making 2 threads about the same thing?

Mystic Mock 22-01-2012 09:53 PM

When will these stupid people learn that they've lost? the majority don't want them to behave like China so **** off and sort out the emmigration problems,and the gun problems aswell.

it's ashame that i'm speaking about America like this as the everyday person over there seem nice but there Governments (Republicans in paticular) are absolutely crazy.

lostalex 22-01-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4898966)
When will these stupid people learn that they've lost? the majority don't want them to behave like China so **** off and sort out the emmigration problems,and the gun problems aswell.

it's ashame that i'm speaking about America like this as the everyday person over there seem nice but there Governments (Republicans in paticular) are absolutely crazy.

"stupid people" really? so you are perfectly hapy to have your work stolen and sold by someone else?

That fat bastard from new zealand was making millions for doing nothing, yu think that's right???

Mystic Mock 22-01-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4898981)
"stupid people" really? so you are perfectly hapy to have your work stolen and sold by someone else?

That fat bastard from new zealand was making millions for doing nothing, yu think that's right???

No but there's worser crimes out there than what he was committing and you can't deny that surely.

Scarlett. 22-01-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4898938)
why are you making 2 threads about the same thing?

ACTA is a whole different ball game to those old American bills, this is a trade agreement between several countries.

Again, I have no problem with protecting copyright, but turning into a China-esque policed state is NOT they way to go about it. Suppression of information is a very dangerous game.

Mystic Mock 22-01-2012 10:06 PM

Exactly Chewy and we should not be told what Avatar or Signatures we should have either.

lostalex 22-01-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4899019)
Exactly Chewy and we should not be told what Avatar or Signatures we should have either.

i didn't say anything about yur ava or sig, wtf are you on about??

Mystic Mock 22-01-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4899033)
i didn't say anything about yur ava or sig, wtf are you on about??

Not you,that is what the American Government is planning on doing,now how is that stealing money from the Americans?

Scarlett. 22-01-2012 10:12 PM

I think going after the uploaders of copyrighted material e.g. films, books, games are the ones who should face charges, and they deserve punishment.

But, think of it like this:

Minecraft is a indie game that rose to fame because people made Youtube videos, Tweeted about it, blogged about it on tumblr, talked and posted pictures of it on forums. Now consider this, all those methods of promotion are banned, Minecraft, possibly the biggest most revolutionary game in recent years would have simply been ignored. The developers don't benefit, they lose out, there's no websites to promote their games because they're illegal under ACTA.

lostalex 22-01-2012 10:16 PM

Those methods wouldn't be banned, unless those major wwebsites didn't properly moderate them. The internet is MEDIA, if the TV stations and newspapers are expected to carefuly chose what they publish, then why shouldn't major websites also be responsible for what they publish??

The truth is Google and Facebook and Twitter should be hiring hundreds of Americans to edit their websites, they get away with having a minimum staff though. Why can't google, a multi-billion dollar company hire hundreds of Americans to monitor it's site? Google could create hundreds of new jobs if this bill passed. That would be Good for the American economy.

These multimillion dollar companies are trying to get away with having people m onitor themselves, when they could be creating thousands of new jobs in the American economy.

They arn't protesting because they are worried about censorship, they are protesting because they don't want to have to create new jobs, and actually GIve Americans JOBS.

MTVN 22-01-2012 10:17 PM

I'm not even that bothered about copyright uploaders, intellectual property sucks

lostalex 22-01-2012 10:19 PM

Google and all these other silicon vally companies are not worried about censorship, they are worried about having to do more work, and hiring more people, causing their bottom line to go down, and losing PROFITS.

Cause if they had to hire people to moderate their sites, they'd lose PROFITS.

lostalex 22-01-2012 10:20 PM

hey don't want to have to HIRE more PEOPLE, that's the real issue.

Scarlett. 22-01-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4899083)
Google and all these other silicon vally companies are not worried about censorship, they are worried about having to do more work, and hiring more people, causing their bottom line to go down, and losing PROFITS.

Cause if they had to hire people to moderate their sites, they'd lose PROFITS.

Youtube does moderate it's site, thats why its alive under current law, Google doesn't block sites (except for morally questionable ones), it's a search engine, it searches the internet. Liveleak and Youtube are worried about censorship, they are amazing FREE platforms for unadulterated truths, no half truths from Mr. Senator who has a bulging pocket full of bribe money, no lies from Mr. Rupert Murdoch's empire. Sites like Youtube and LiveLeak show the world as it really is, and the companies don't like it.

The internet as it stands today is the ownly place that the people truely control, the internet is free from the lies that Ministers and Senators want you to believe.

Samuel. 24-01-2012 11:53 PM

Poland is planning to sign the agreement apparently. I don't really know what that means in the grand scheme of things though :shrug:

Mystic Mock 25-01-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4906298)
Poland is planning to sign the agreement apparently. I don't really know what that means in the grand scheme of things though :shrug:

That the Mayans was right.:bawling:

Scarlett. 25-01-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4906298)
Poland is planning to sign the agreement apparently. I don't really know what that means in the grand scheme of things though :shrug:

Anonymous attacked a bunch of Poland's government websites, Poland is now unsure

Mystic Mock 25-01-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4909846)
Anonymous attacked a bunch of Poland's government websites, Poland is now unsure

Why did Anonymous do that for? now we've got two countries possibly entering into dictatorship.

arista 26-01-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4899083)
Google and all these other silicon vally companies are not worried about censorship, they are worried about having to do more work, and hiring more people, causing their bottom line to go down, and losing PROFITS.

Cause if they had to hire people to moderate their sites, they'd lose PROFITS.



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Scarlett. 26-01-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4909861)
Why did Anonymous do that for? now we've got two countries possibly entering into dictatorship.

Because they were going to sign the ACTA

Ramsay 26-01-2012 03:15 PM

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-m...es-including-i
Well there we go..we're ****ed

billy123 26-01-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 4911093)

Thats a damn nightmare right there.
ACTA is horrific it makes it legal to carry out deep packet inspections on all of your internet traffic so they can monitor everything you do online including your personal emails :nono:
There was an enquiry called the gallo report that was to see if there was a need for ACTA and if it was backed by people in the entertainment industry.
The final gallo report came with the backing via signatures of some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry.
Strangely some of the people they claimed had signed it swore that they hadnt and two of the names were of people that had been dead for at least four years.
They still used the gallo report as proof for the need of ACTA :nono: corrupt as hell.



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