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arista 28-01-2012 05:43 PM

Taliban Refuse talks because of America's Gitmo Prisoners
 
Reported on Ch4News


Hamid Kazi over here to sign Army Training deals with the UK PM.
The Afghan leader wants to go into talks with the Taliben
but they Demand America lets the Prisoners go from Gitmo (Guantanamo Bay).



Of Course The USA President said he would Close Gitmo down.
They have all the Data they need from all the Prisoners
so let them go or get them into a Real Court.


Sign Of The Times

lostalex 28-01-2012 06:07 PM

oh well, back to just killing them then. fine with me.

InOne 28-01-2012 06:09 PM

What is the Taliben?

lostalex 28-01-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 4918711)
Reported on Ch4News


Hamid Kazi over here to sign Army Training deals with the UK PM.
The Afghan leader wants to go into talks with the Taliben
but they Demand America lets the Prisoners go from Gitmo (Guantanamo Bay).



Of Course The USA President said he would Close Gitmo down.
They have all the Data they need from all the Prisoners
so let them go or get them into a Real Court.

obama tried to close down Guantanamo, he asked all the countries that had been screaming about "ohh guantanamo is against human rights, blah blah blah) if they'd be willing to take the prisoners. and guess what response he got? All of a sudden all those countries screaming about "human rights abuses" all of a sudden they were no where to be found...

The only reason Gitmo is still open is cause no other countries will take the prisoners. Funny how that worked out, isn't it.

MTVN 28-01-2012 06:22 PM

It's disgusting the way the UK and US governments have treated this whole Guantanamo issue, we have a British guy still there who has been kept for ten years without ever being charged, ten years without ever seeing a shred of evidence against him, ten years in inhumane conditions while his health has deteriorated to the point that he's on the verge of death, so much for the promises of the Coalition and Obama

lostalex 28-01-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4918856)
It's disgusting the way the UK and US governments have treated this whole Guantanamo issue, we have a British guy still there who has been kept for ten years without ever being charged, ten years without ever seeing a shred of evidence against him, ten years in inhumane conditions while his health has deteriorated to the point that he's on the verge of death, so much for the promises of the Coalition and Obama

There are no British citizens currently in Guantanamo, you are mistaken.

Name plzzz. Plz inform us who this British citizen on the brink of death is lol. I'm sure every journalist in the world would like to know, cause that's quite an incredible story if this Brit on the brink of death actually exists.

????

lostalex 28-01-2012 06:36 PM

Hello?

MTVN 28-01-2012 06:39 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-6287786.html

Shaker Aamer

lostalex 28-01-2012 06:42 PM

he's not British, he was a British RESIDENT. says right in the second paragraph. *sigh*

If you cared about his case, you wouldn't need to lie.

There are NO British Citizens in Guantanamo, like i said.

Me. I Am Salman 28-01-2012 06:45 PM

Close Guantanamo now you stupid *****

lostalex 28-01-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 4918930)
Close Guantanamo now you stupid *****

wer tried, funny how europe doesn't wanna take the prisoners back.

Obama has already offered to close it as soon as other countries will take the prisoners... so who's gonna take them???

Why don't you ask CAMERON why he won't take them?? you stupid ****

MTVN 28-01-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4918921)
he's not British, he was a British RESIDENT. says right in the second paragraph. *sigh*

If you cared about his case, you wouldn't need to lie.

There are NO British Citizens in Guantanamo, like i said.

They also call him "British" in the title and a "Briton" in the first paragraph, I don't know why you're being so semantic and defensive :S I wasn't lying, but he's the responsibility of the British government and is considered to be a Brit, and his treatment is wrong regardless of his nationality, stop being so aggressive

arista 28-01-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4918821)
obama tried to close down Guantanamo, he asked all the countries that had been screaming about "ohh guantanamo is against human rights, blah blah blah) if they'd be willing to take the prisoners. and guess what response he got? All of a sudden all those countries screaming about "human rights abuses" all of a sudden they were no where to be found...

The only reason Gitmo is still open is cause no other countries will take the prisoners. Funny how that worked out, isn't it.





He can Close it Down by sending those Prisoners
to Afghan to be free.

Any he thinks are Real Guilty put them in a Proper Court.


Simple

Shasown 28-01-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4918934)
wer tried, funny how europe doesn't wanna take the prisoners back.

Obama has already offered to close it as soon as other countries will take the prisoners... so who's gonna take them???

Why don't you ask CAMERON why he won't take them?? you stupid ****

The intention of Obama was never to close the whole of Guantanamo, he is a politician, a common tactic is to make promises they know they wont be able to keep.

Theres an old saying that you can always tell when a politician is lying, their lips move.

Also for a man who you say has asked that other countries "take" the prisoners in Gitmo I find it very strange he would sign the 2011 Defence Authorisation Bill which actually prevents the transfer of Gitmo inmates either to the US maniland or overseas. Its a funny old world isnt it?

Didnt he also bring onto US statute a provision for the inmates to be held indefinately without trial?

lostalex 30-01-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4919413)
The intention of Obama was never to close the whole of Guantanamo, he is a politician, a common tactic is to make promises they know they wont be able to keep.

Theres an old saying that you can always tell when a politician is lying, their lips move.

Also for a man who you say has asked that other countries "take" the prisoners in Gitmo I find it very strange he would sign the 2011 Defence Authorisation Bill which actually prevents the transfer of Gitmo inmates either to the US maniland or overseas. Its a funny old world isnt it?

Didnt he also bring onto US statute a provision for the inmates to be held indefinately without trial?


Obviously you can't just drop then back into the"bomb belt" aka the middle east, they'd be recruited right back into being terrorists, which is how they got to Guantanamo to begin with. Obviously you'd have to give them to Australia, or the UK, or Germany or some other 1st world country for them to be rehabilittaded, and hopefully adapt to life in a western nation and give up their terrorist ways.

Why would Obama put the terrorists in Guantanamo back intoAfghanistan just so they could try to kill American troops again? How would that make sense to YOU at all? That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Shasown 03-02-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4923251)
Obviously you can't just drop then back into the"bomb belt" aka the middle east, they'd be recruited right back into being terrorists, which is how they got to Guantanamo to begin with. Obviously you'd have to give them to Australia, or the UK, or Germany or some other 1st world country for them to be rehabilittaded, and hopefully adapt to life in a western nation and give up their terrorist ways.

Why would Obama put the terrorists in Guantanamo back intoAfghanistan just so they could try to kill American troops again? How would that make sense to YOU at all? That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Where did you hear that he was planning of dumping them back in Afghanistan?

I never said it, nor did I imply it.

I pointed out that initially he wanted to transfer prisoners to mainland US prisons, or in some cases transfer them back to their countries of origin. Obviously only the ones that came from countries he would expect to keep them in detention.

Do you actually read what is written or just pick out the odd word and then string a new and unrelated meaning to other peoples posts on forums?

lostalex 03-02-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4930500)
Where did you hear that he was planning of dumping them back in Afghanistan?

I never said it, nor did I imply it.

I pointed out that initially he wanted to transfer prisoners to mainland US prisons, or in some cases transfer them back to their countries of origin. Obviously only the ones that came from countries he would expect to keep them in detention.

Do you actually read what is written or just pick out the odd word and then string a new and unrelated meaning to other peoples posts on forums?

Wow, yu were just waiting for me to come back online weren't you. Stop targetting me, seriously, i've had enuf of it. You've had 2 days to comment on this topic and yur obviously just trying to start an argument with me. LAME.

I won't even give you the respect to answer your argument, because4 you've lost all dignity by trying to attack me.

This topic was 2 days old, and you waited til you saw me online to bring it up again, really? get a life.

Shasown 03-02-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4930506)
Wow, yu were just waiting for me to come back online weren't you. Stop targetting me, seriously, i've had enuf of it. You've had 2 days to comment on this topic and yur obviously just trying to start an argument with me. LAME.

I won't even give you the respect to answer your argument, because4 you've lost all dignity by trying to attack me.

This topic was 2 days old, and you waited til you saw me online to bring it up again, really? get a life.



Targetting you? PMSL you really rate yourself that high?

If you look at my posting history you will see I havent posted since last weekend, some of us adults work for a living pal.

Your ego is writing cheques your intelligence cant afford to cash mate.

lostalex 03-02-2012 11:30 AM

Right so it's just a coincidence you decide to bump this thread right when i come online after 2 days? You're a conspiracy theorist, yu should realize that's a little too convenient for anyone to believe. SRSLY.

Shasown 03-02-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4930535)
Right so it's just a coincidence you decide to bump this thread right when i come online after 2 days? You're a conspiracy theorist, yu should realize that's a little too convenient for anyone to believe. SRSLY.

Oh I see, so I have sat on the forum for two days refreshing the who is online page, waiting for you to pop back on line?

Have you ever heard of the word "Paranoia"? i would sit and meditate on it and how your behaviour appears to others.

Seriously I have more important things in my life to concentrate on rather than sitting around waiting to take pops at someone who hasnt a very firm grip on reality.

Incidentally talking of waiting two days to make posts why dont you review the dates and times of my post about Obama signing the 2011 Defence Authorisation Bill and then your reply.

While you are at it, read that post, then read your reply objectively and see who is being insulting, attempting and failing to pointscore through deliberately misinterpreting other peoples posts.

I merely corrected your historical inaccuracies. As our good friend Arista would say FACT.


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