Afghanistan Women are going back to the way they were
 

Title Changed 8/3/12

Original Heading:
Taliban will Rule Afghanistan again
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...eport-pakistan


Pakistan respects the Taliban more than the US Troops.


So the USA Led Invasion
ends up like the Russian Invasion - No Frecking Change.

The Russians and the Americans made the same mistake, assuming that they were dealing with intelligent and reasonable human beings.

Radical muslims are not reasonable human beings.

Its a Nation that does not want Outside Control,
and it about time USA and Russia
learnt that simple fact.

really? well i don't remember America doing anything to disturb "their nation" it was 9/11 that came from afghanistan that caused to invade, so maybe if they don't want invaders they shouldn't allow terrorist groups to fester within their borders.

They seemed plenty willing to kill gays and women, so why weren't they killing Osama Bin Laden when he was living there????

Saudi Arabia as well.

But No way did America have to waste over 10 years getting no place better
just like the Russians did.


Loads of nations Kill Gays - Thats the way there God Vision goes.



Of course there is No God , anyway.

Another case of selective amnesia.

9/11 didnt come from Afghanista. Al Quaeda had training camps there yes they also had training camps in other countries too including Pakistan.

9/11 came about as a plan by Bin Laden and company expressing a wish for the US to remove its troops from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and to stop interferring in Middle Eastern politics.

Lets not forget Bin liner was trained by the CIA to recruit train and use terrorist cells to attack the USSR infrastructure in Afghansitan during their little party there.

Top Tip of the Day: If you read up on that little fracas you may find some similarities to the current situation.

and unlike afghanistan(the taliban), all the other countries that were housing terrorists agreed to crack down on it, unlike afghanistan(taliban).

Now i certainly agree with you that PAKIstani's are just as evil as the afghans, but at least they agreed to try to fight against Al Queada (obviously now that we see they were protecting OBL the whole time, we know the truth) but at least they PRETENDED to wanna fight terrorists, the Taliban didn't agree to fight terrorists at all.

Bin LAden was not trained by the CIA, please provide any proof at ALL that Bin LAden had any contact with the CIA, you have none, you've been watching Loose Change and ZEitgeist, that's what you consider reliable information. LOL.

Get Educated plzzz.

Does that make them morally better in your eyes because they pretended to fight them all the while letting them recruit and train in their own country.

The Taliban refused to close the camps and hand over the "terrorists" to the US as the US were asking, the US did not offer any forms of evidence to the Taliban to prove that those in the countries were in any way part of the attacks on the US mainland, merely demanding the Taliban comply.

Whereas Pakistan actively protected the terrorists while pretending to be singing from the same songsheets as the rest of the world. they simply denied the existance of the traing camps, even in the face of evidence produced by the US and other intelligence services.

Maybe the US should invade Pakistan next eh?

If a major attack on America was organized in Pakistan and the PAkistani's were protecting them, then ofcourse we should attack Pakistan, and unlike Afghanistan, we shouldn't waste our time afterwards trying to build hospitals and schools, we should just annihilate them. And they'd deserve it.

You'd disagree?

The US knew that Al Quaeda had carried out the attack. They didnt know exactly where the attacks were planned, they probably still dont. They did know that Afghanistan housed a large number of Al Quaeda training camps.

But then again there were also training camps in Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and numerous other Midlle Eastern countries. Not all received the support of the governments they were in. In some cases they were set up and run covertly and illegally in the host country.

If they later obtained evidence that they were actually planned round a campfire in Pakistan and not Afghanistan, would they announce it to the world, pull their troops out of Afghanistan apologise and make restitution to the Afghan people and the Taliban? Then invade Pakistan and occupy it just as they did Afghanistan?

Or would whichever administration was in power at the time simply bury it?

Lets face it, the fact that Afghanistan housed a large number of training camps was politically convenient to the US. Didnt the Bush administration try to make a link between Al Quaeda and Saddam Hussein in order to push forward with invasion plans for Iraq?

Afghanistan Women are going back to the way they were:

This has been reported this week on Radio5

The current President Hamid Karzai
has now set up the laws on women as the same as the Taliban,
he of course says no,
its the Islamic way.


Now when the Americans and others Invaded Afghanistan
they were there to destroy The Terror groups they felt were connected
to 9/11.
And Womens Rights are Not Part of the Real Deal.


And this nation has every right to return to their Original Islamic ways
that mean women can not leave the house without a man.


The Troops that invaded were there to stop Terror
Not become Crusaders.
Fact.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nistan.svg.png
The Current Flag

Would people expect Americans to roll over and let the troops in, if a Muslim country invaded America to capture George Bush and Dick Cheney? They presided over war crimes and are personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, as opposed to relatively minuscule 3-4000 casualties on 9/11.

If Americans are so outraged by those attacks, then why are they still shafting the first responders, who have shortened their own lives, because they wanted to help follow citizens.

America is shafting it's own heroes.

I guarantee that they wouldn't have attacked (nuclear armed) Pakistan if it was them, just like nobody questioned why most of the hijackers were Saudi, yet nothing was ever looked at with them.

"just like nobody questioned why most of the hijackers were Saudi, yet nothing was ever looked at with them. "

Yes Atta , from Egypt
was the Leader of those Death Planes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta

Minuscule? Everything you are is too horrible for me to say here and you're not worth getting an infraction for.

umm, what war crimes? Actually America did more to prevent civilian deaths than any other country in the history of war fare, so please educate us on these war crimes.

And a Muslim country did invade us, ON 9/11. try to keep up.

The casualties of 9/11 are minuscule compared to what the USA & Israel have done in certain places though.

ummmm, no sorry, targetting THREE THOUSAND INNOCENT Civililians, please give me any example of the US ever doing that, and then tell me how it's minuscule, you *** **** ****** (censored to avoid infraction)

Maybe you don't GRASP the concept of TARGETTING INNOCENT CIVILIANS, do you? It's a pretty IMPORTANT concept to grasp when it comes to warfare.

THEY target INNOCENT CIVILIANS, WE DON"T. It's a huge difference.

I fully understand the concept of Innocent Civilians.

How about the poor Iraqi Men,Women & Children who lost their homes & lives due to American invasion & Policy?


How about the poor Lebanese people that were bombarded by a Nation already so much bigger than itself in Israel, yet the Americans felt the need to get involved and start supporting Israel

How about the fact the USA likes to twist the fact that innocent Palestinians are being killed everyday into one of "Retaliation from Israel" when that is far from the truth.?

You want statistics, well ok.....The USA have killed 30 Muslims for every One American lost at the hands of "Muslims".

The key word is "relatively," my hyper sensitive sparring partner. Those 3-4000 people, whilst tragic, are small fry when compared to between 200,000-1.5 million deaths due to the invasion of Iraq. A country that had no weapons of mass destruction, and had nothing to do with 9/11.

War crimes? How about Torture? Waterboarding is torture, but bush/cheney turned it into policy. How about the treatment of prisoners in Abu Grahib?

Bush was due to fly accross to Europe last year but he **** it, because there are human rights groups that want him arrested.

You were never attacked by a Muslim country on 9/11. You were attacked by a small group of fundamentalist Muslims.

I await your next bout of completely over the top reactions to an opinion differing from yours.

yea, there are also human rights groups that want all abortion doctors put in jail for "murder".

Give me a BREAK.

and no it's NOT a SMALL group of Muslims, it's MOST of them. And if it's not, then we wouldn't have to be over there, cause the other muslims would have taken care of it themselves.

The whole town doesn't come out to celebrate over killing innocent civilians, chanting Death to America, and burning American flags if it's just a "small group".

GET REAL.

On Topic


If you Invade do not Expect Woman to get Human Rights
After 10 years it's going backwards.

A School built for all children Girls and boys
was Burnt by the locals. (ref: Radio 5 breakfast)
As under their Islamic Rule women are not the
same "Level" as men in life.


Today is International Womans Day
but in this nation is counts as Bugger All.
Fact.

I completely agree. After 9/11, we should've just dropped a crap load of bombs on them for a month, and then LEFT. We were stupid ever trying to introduce CIVILIZATION to those things.

Yet another thing I have no idea about :bored: why am I such an uneducated ******ing mess

"We were stupid ever trying to introduce CIVILIZATION to those things. "


It was GW Bush and Blair
who were Fools

That's no lie.