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Me. I Am Salman 15-02-2012 06:30 PM

Can you visualise a new colour?
 
A completely new and different colour, like how yellow is different to blue for exaple
This is SUCH a brain****, and always leaves me perplexed.

Doogle 15-02-2012 06:31 PM

Nope.

Smithy 15-02-2012 06:32 PM

Serious Debates & News Stories

:laugh2:

Harry! 15-02-2012 06:34 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missing_Shade_of_Blue

Me. I Am Salman 15-02-2012 06:35 PM

I'm expecting someone like Livia to come in and turn it into a serious news debate.

Niall 15-02-2012 06:35 PM

It's physically impossible to imagine or perceive a new colour.

andy191 15-02-2012 06:35 PM

Can you think of a new letter that sound's completely different to any other when pronounced?

Me. I Am Salman 15-02-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niall (Post 4957915)
It's physically impossible to imagine or perceive a new colour.

Mentally impossible

Ammi 15-02-2012 06:38 PM

LOL..Salman, you're....unique

ILoveTRW 15-02-2012 06:38 PM

my bedroom used to be painted a colour that was whiter than white but yet blueish, so yes

Niall 15-02-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 4957920)
Mentally impossible

No it's a physical thing. Our eyes can only perceive a certain spectrum of light, so if there were any other colours, we wouldn't be able to see them because of the physical constraints of our eyes.

SharkAttack 15-02-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niall (Post 4957928)
No it's a physical thing. Our eyes can only perceive a certain spectrum of light, so if there were any other colours, we wouldn't be able to see them because of the physical constraints of our eyes.

This. You could maybe imagine something with a 3-D fluorescence, but it'd be blinding, or almost impossible to look at, but that's not really a color change. And, yes, I have no idea what I'm talkin about. :joker:

Ammi 15-02-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharkAttack (Post 4957940)
This. You could maybe imagine something with a 3-D fluorescence, but it'd be blinding, or almost impossible to look at, but that's not really a color change. And, yes, I have no idea what I'm talkin about. :joker:

...sounds good to me

Harry! 15-02-2012 06:52 PM

If you are Locke and you say that "Your mind is a blank slate." then it could be possible. A blind person from birth could visualise a colour in their minds by other descriptions. For example the colour red could be described as "love, hot, fire, evil" and therefore could be visualised.

If you are Hume and with the Missing Shade Of Blue Theory" it could be possible to visualise it but you MUST have had similiar experience to know this. Could you work out the missing colour marked "?" without the blocks next to it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._shade.svg.png

Kizzy 15-02-2012 06:56 PM

How can there be a missing shade? if you have dark blue, then you add a tiny bit of white, you get lighter blue...surely?
Why are you trying to blag my head? haha

Harry! 15-02-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 4957966)
How can there be a missing shade? if you have dark blue, then you add a tiny bit of white, you get lighter blue...surely?
Why are you trying to blag my head? haha

But the fact is what does it look like? And could you do it in you head without physically forming that colour (ie using paint or pencils). There are of course many critsisms to Hume's theory. I am currently studying Philosophy at college and I know about this.

Me. I Am Salman 15-02-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 4957953)
If you are Locke and you say that "Your mind is a blank slate." then it could be possible. A blind person from birth could visualise a colour in their minds by other descriptions. For example the colour red could be described as "love, hot, fire, evil" and therefore could be visualised.

If you are Hume and with the Missing Shade Of Blue Theory" it could be possible to visualise it but you MUST have had similiar experience to know this. Could you work out the missing colour marked "?" without the blocks next to it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._shade.svg.png

Reasons like this is why I put it in the serious debate thread
This is certainly no chat.

Harry! 15-02-2012 07:06 PM

Sorry for having a bit of background knowledge :hmph:

Kizzy 15-02-2012 07:11 PM

Blue can be visualized, Cold, sad, sky,...but why is one missing? and why only blue? surely all colours have a spectrum, by the same token there must be a missing red...or a missing yellow?

Roy Mars III 15-02-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 4958009)
Blue can be visualized, Cold, sad, sky,...but why is one missing? and why only blue? surely all colours have a spectrum, by the same token there must be a missing red...or a missing yellow?

lol, your missing the point of the Hume's argument. The fact that it's blue is irrelevant.

Kizzy 15-02-2012 07:19 PM

Right! Im googling it...

Me. I Am Salman 15-02-2012 07:25 PM

Okay can some mod move this to serious news & debates pls?

Doogle 15-02-2012 07:25 PM

I think a mod just moved it here, doubt they're moving it back LOL.

Josy 15-02-2012 07:32 PM

I moved it here, its not a serious debate.

Kizzy 15-02-2012 07:33 PM

oh...so it means even if you cant see something it does not mean it is not real,once you conceptualize something it makes it real?


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