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Ammi 20-04-2012 05:52 AM

Dad makes 8 year old daughter wear 'I steal' sign...
 
....over reaction or good parenting?

Dad Montrail White from Illinois, was determined to prove a point when he found out his eight-year-old daughter Amiyah had been stealing.

He fashioned a sign that said 'I like to steal from others and lie about it' and made her wear it around her neck. In front of her school friends.

He sent her to High Mount Elementary School wearing the sign, and forced her to stand in the car park while her friends and teachers went into school.

While Montrail claims he just wanted her to understand what she did was wrong, the school wasn't having any of it, and called the police, who ordered him off the property.

Claiming Montrail had sworn loudly 15 times, High Mount School Superintendent Michael Brink told KSDK: "It's his right to discipline his child how he sees fit, within reason.

"Our concern is he's trying to do it in the middle of a very, very busy parking lot while screaming profanities."

Montrail and wife Melissa say the school intervened in their disciplining Amiyah

"Here I am trying to teach my daughter right from wrong and there isn't anything I can really do because a police officer yelled at her daddy and threatened to lock him up," said Montrail.

"I'd rather have this now than have something in the paper later about my daughter that's worse. I'd do it again tomorrow."

Poor Amiyah, who wants to be a nurse, says she understands why her dad did what he did, saying: "He did it because he loved me. He doesn't want me to end up in jail when I'm older. He wants me to have a good future."

Jake. 20-04-2012 06:10 AM

Lets me guess, Americans? Even if not, a good telling off should do and I find what he did to be an overreaction.

joeysteele 20-04-2012 08:14 AM

8 years of age is too young to be branded like this. I don't obviously agree with her stealing but this is not a way to deal with things.
It is actually more like abuse of his daughter,it should be seen as that and he should be in trouble for it.

Kazanne 20-04-2012 08:23 AM

This is wrong,8 years old?maybe he would be better finding out WHY she stole and deal with it privately,this could lead to the child being taunted at school,stupid man,some people just love that power to humiliate.

thesheriff443 20-04-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5089977)
This is wrong,8 years old?maybe he would be better finding out WHY she stole and deal with it privately,this could lead to the child being taunted at school,stupid man,some people just love that power to humiliate.

i agree
he should have a sign around his neck while he is tied naked to a interstate sign:joker:

Ninastar 20-04-2012 10:02 AM

Don't really see the problem with it. At least he isn't trying to justify what his daughter did, like a lot of parents do when their kids do something bad

Livia 20-04-2012 10:06 AM

What a horrible man. I don't know much about parenting but treating an eight year old like that is barbaric. She'll hate him when she's older and he'll wonder why.

thesheriff443 20-04-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5090017)
Don't really see the problem with it. At least he isn't trying to justify what his daughter did, like a lot of parents do when their kids do something bad

its like having a child who wets the bed then you send them to school with a sign around their neck,bed wetter!

Kazanne 20-04-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5090017)
Don't really see the problem with it. At least he isn't trying to justify what his daughter did, like a lot of parents do when their kids do something bad

No one is justifying what she did,he could have dealt with it privately NOT humiliated her in front of her whole school etc.stealing is wrong,but so is child abuse,which this is bordering on.

Ninastar 20-04-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5090029)
No one is justifying what she did,he could have dealt with it privately NOT humiliated her in front of her whole school etc.stealing is wrong,but so is child abuse,which this is bordering on.

I think it's different, this kid didn't just do something bad, she essentially broke the law. People go to prison for stealing, imagine if she was older. I'm not going to say that what he did was right - there are so many other things he could have done, but I will say that I don't think it's that bad. She needed to learn a lesson and I'm sure she has now.

thesheriff443 20-04-2012 10:19 AM

iv said this before two wrongs dont make a right,
with no disrespect to other members,you have to be a parent to fully gage the implications of her dads actions.

Marc 20-04-2012 10:21 AM

She may be young, but surely it will stop her from doing it in the future?

He's doing it for all the good reasons, can't blame him for wanting to bring his kid up with the right beliefs and to discipline them the way he see's fit. She's his child, he's responsible for making sure she doesn't grow up to be one of those we dislike to much in society nowadays, if he never intervened and just let her to continue committing crimes you'd all probably blame the parents first anyway.

thesheriff443 20-04-2012 10:27 AM

she is a kid,as kids we all do stupid things
he is a parent and has done a stupid thing,that will stay with his child.

Flamingjoe 20-04-2012 10:42 AM

This is disgusting, what he did may scar her for life.

Kazanne 20-04-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5090038)
She may be young, but surely it will stop her from doing it in the future?

He's doing it for all the good reasons, can't blame him for wanting to bring his kid up with the right beliefs and to discipline them the way he see's fit. She's his child, he's responsible for making sure she doesn't grow up to be one of those we dislike to much in society nowadays, if he never intervened and just let her to continue committing crimes you'd all probably blame the parents first anyway.

he may well be doing it for the right reasons but surely something less public could have been her punishment,this kid could now be bullied through her life at school because of this,imo it's wrong.

Niamh. 20-04-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5090020)
What a horrible man. I don't know much about parenting but treating an eight year old like that is barbaric. She'll hate him when she's older and he'll wonder why.

This.

I'm all for disciplining children and teaching them how to behave appropriately but she's only 8 years old (same age as my son actually) I think it was a bit extreme and humiliating for that kid.

Livia 20-04-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5090033)
I think it's different, this kid didn't just do something bad, she essentially broke the law. People go to prison for stealing, imagine if she was older. I'm not going to say that what he did was right - there are so many other things he could have done, but I will say that I don't think it's that bad. She needed to learn a lesson and I'm sure she has now.

Yes, she has learned a lesson. This eight year old learned that the male role model in her life, the one that's supposed to love and protect her, the one she's supposed to look up to, is entitled to humiliate her as though she's nothing. That's a lesson that'll stick.

Niall 20-04-2012 11:18 AM

Thats just nasty tbh. She's just a little kid. To force her to stand in front of her friends and wear a sign like that is just cruel.

Roy Mars III 20-04-2012 11:19 AM

good parenting

Shaun 20-04-2012 11:27 AM

let's face it, he's an awful parent for naming his child 'Amiyah'

thesheriff443 20-04-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5090150)
let's face it, he's an awful parent for naming his child 'Amiyah'

lol:joker:

Niamh. 20-04-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5090150)
let's face it, he's an awful parent for naming his child 'Amiyah'

Can you blame him really for naming her after Ammi?

Strictly Jake 20-04-2012 12:01 PM

he wasnt exactly showing a good example himself. Swearing in a kids car park. Thats also a wrong thing to do. He should have to wear a sign in a busy shopping centre that says I must not swear. However I do think it was appropriate to discipline the child but not this way

Ammi 20-04-2012 04:30 PM

..He could have confiscated something precious of his daughters..so she's aware of how it feels to have something taken away..and maybe asked a police officer to talk to her too..instead of having her watch the police order him off the premises..
..I don't think this was a 'calm' and well thought out thing..if he was 'screaming profanities'
....lovely role model

MTVN 20-04-2012 04:34 PM

She was probably only stealing a few penny sweets


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