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Ammi 02-05-2012 06:08 PM

12 year old boy found locked in paedophile's cupboard
 
A 12 year-old boy was found locked in a cupboard after police made a chance check of a known paedophile's home.

A court heard that the youngster – regarded as 'vulnerable' – had been groomed by the convicted pervert and had been at the home for several weeks before he was discovered.

Thankfully, the boy was unharmed after the police rescue.

He was found at the home of Adam Younger, a convicted paedophile who was the subject of an order limiting his contact with young people following three convictions.

When officers called, Younger, 22, fled, then sent the boy a text saying: "Run" - followed by another which read: "Say you have only been for 10 minutes."

Prosecutor Mark Styles told the court Younger had answered the door of his home in Horden, County Durham, partially dressed

One officer found unmade bedding in a bedroom and saw a cupboard locked by a latch from the outside.

Mr Styles said: "On opening it she found a boy hiding inside."

Younger - who was previously jailed for downloading indecent images, and convicted of sex assaults on boys under 13 - was arrested later that day.

He told poloice he had befriended the boy at a bus station. He admitted child abduction and breaching a Sexual Offences Prevention Order at Durham Crown Court.

Recorder Ian Atherton said it appeared Younger was 'grooming' the boy and jailed him for three years. Warren Grier, mitigating, said: "He needs assistance from a sex treatment programme."

Mrluvaluva 02-05-2012 06:18 PM

The boy had been at his home for several weeks and was unharmed? That was extremely fortunate. The boys parents must have been going out of their minds. The guy will be out in a year though and will most probably do the same thing at the first opportunity he gets unfortunately.

arista 02-05-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5115346)
The boy had been at his home for several weeks and was unharmed? That was extremely fortunate. The boys parents must have been going out of their minds. The guy will be out in a year though and will most probably do the same thing at the first opportunity he gets unfortunately.

Are you Sure?

Mrluvaluva 02-05-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5115350)
Are you Sure?

Of course I am not sure and you know that so why ask the question? He got 3 years so he will most probably serve about half of that or just less which seems to be the norm.

joeysteele 02-05-2012 06:44 PM

He will be assessed but it is not impossible, unless the judge recommended that he serve the full 3 years or even 2 years, that he could and would be eligible for consideration for parole after he has served a third of his time.

This is what is wrong with the law and 3 years even served to the maximum is too short, he had the lad in his house, whether the lad had gone with him voluntarily or not is irrelevent, the lad was only 12, he didn't take him there to play computer games or give him just treats,that is why I would love to see 'with intent' added to charges like this to take in the possible serious consequences that could have occurred,especially shall we say as to if the lad suddenly wanted to leave.What then may have happened.

Children, vulnerable or not should be able to feel safe with adults not be groomed in this way for rotten and perverse reasons and desires.

Me. I Am Salman 02-05-2012 06:56 PM

How horrible

Ammi 02-05-2012 07:06 PM

...they say he was 'unharmed'..yet surely being locked in a cupboard and groomed is harming..physically or mentally..it's still 'harming'

Z 02-05-2012 07:13 PM

That's shocking... I hope the boy's not mentally scarred after this

joeysteele 02-05-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5115431)
...they say he was 'unharmed'..yet surely being locked in a cupboard and groomed is harming..physically or mentally..it's still 'harming'

Absolutely, unharmed??, as you say he was locked in a cupboard with a latch on the outside, what else went on is the worrying thing, what else was he subjected to, what else was he made to watch for instance.

Sick.
To describe him as Unharmed is a joke,obviously maybe they mean he was well and hadn't been beaten but he certainly wasn't taken there for a cup of tea in the first place.
These people made me really angry and I have lost patience with such as them who think they can take young children for their own perverse desires.

bananarama 02-05-2012 07:35 PM

The law in this country now is a complete ass. Sentencing policy devised by morons. When I think back to when I was a youngster with no fear of being acosted assaulted even when walking home in the middle of the night and now we have a crime infested sick society. Its heart breaking to see how times have changed for the worse by a mile.......

The sad thing is todays youngsters just don't know how bad things are compared to years ago. From a technological point of view things are truly fantastic. From a social point of view we are living in a disaster zone world wide....

Redway 02-05-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 5115447)
That's shocking... I hope the boy's not mentally scarred after this

Well, he will be, won't he? It's inevitable. Honestly, the government is so messed up these days.

Livia 02-05-2012 08:36 PM

Sadly there will be more people worrying and wringing their hands about the Human Rights of the paedophile than there will be over the child. There is currently no deterrent for paedophiles. A year in the nick, segregated from other prisoners and kept with monsters like himself is no deterrent. When he's done his time he'll be back out, he'll be housed and looked after and they'll tell him he mustn't have contact with children... which is what they told him last time. That worked then. This person and people like him should be removed from society forever, because he will never, ever be "cured".

Mrluvaluva 02-05-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5115703)
This person and people like him should be removed from society forever, because he will never, ever be "cured".

I totally agree with you. I read the following: ""Treatment works for a great many people. But it doesn't always work. There are people who don't respond well to it, or there are people who respond well to it and then re-offend later,". So basically anyone has the possibility of re-offending. So basically rehabilitation does not work.

Vicky. 02-05-2012 08:54 PM

The law in this country is so ****ed up sometimes.

Pyramid* 02-05-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 5115499)
The law in this country now is a complete ass. Sentencing policy devised by morons. When I think back to when I was a youngster with no fear of being acosted assaulted even when walking home in the middle of the night and now we have a crime infested sick society. Its heart breaking to see how times have changed for the worse by a mile.......

The sad thing is todays youngsters just don't know how bad things are compared to years ago. From a technological point of view things are truly fantastic. From a social point of view we are living in a disaster zone world wide....


You've really summed it up in 2 small paragraphs. The 'world' today is getting sicker by the week.

joeysteele 02-05-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5115703)
Sadly there will be more people worrying and wringing their hands about the Human Rights of the paedophile than there will be over the child. There is currently no deterrent for paedophiles. A year in the nick, segregated from other prisoners and kept with monsters like himself is no deterrent. When he's done his time he'll be back out, he'll be housed and looked after and they'll tell him he mustn't have contact with children... which is what they told him last time. That worked then. This person and people like him should be removed from society forever, because he will never, ever be "cured".

Exactly, with possibly much worse to happen in the future concerning this individual.

InOne 02-05-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5115703)
Sadly there will be more people worrying and wringing their hands about the Human Rights of the paedophile than there will be over the child. There is currently no deterrent for paedophiles. A year in the nick, segregated from other prisoners and kept with monsters like himself is no deterrent. When he's done his time he'll be back out, he'll be housed and looked after and they'll tell him he mustn't have contact with children... which is what they told him last time. That worked then. This person and people like him should be removed from society forever, because he will never, ever be "cured".

They have that level system thing don't they? Of how much of a risk they are? Doubt it would really stop any of them though if they wanted to commit the acts

hennessy 02-05-2012 10:14 PM

disgusting, the punishment will never fit the crime.

Mystic Mock 03-05-2012 03:45 PM

3 Years? how ****ing ridiculous, that's only 1 year longer than that Liam Stacey's racist tweets on Twitter isn't it?

Come on new party come now?

Jack_ 03-05-2012 04:36 PM

I'll agree three years is in no way near enough, but I can't stand it when people are so quick to pipe up with knee-jerk reactions to these types of stories.

Rehabilitation is important, as are human rights. As disgusting and foul as some crimes are, it's important that the mental health of these criminals are looked into not only so that they are not a danger to themselves or others, but in order for us to try and understand more about the causes of these types of crimes. It's all very well and good to start screaming and wailing about 'banging them up' and 'throwing away the key', but there's more to it than that I'm afraid.

Mystic Mock 03-05-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5116857)
I'll agree three years is in no way near enough, but I can't stand it when people are so quick to pipe up with knee-jerk reactions to these types of stories.

Rehabilitation is important, as are human rights. As disgusting and foul as some crimes are, it's important that the mental health of these criminals are looked into not only so that they are not a danger to themselves or others, but in order for us to try and understand more about the causes of these types of crimes. It's all very well and good to start screaming and wailing about 'banging them up' and 'throwing away the key', but there's more to it than that I'm afraid.

Im sorry but human rights are taken away from these people once they **** with innocent peoples rights.

Also rehabilitation very rarely works, also these scumbags know what they're doing is wrong so they should be sentenced to life in prison if the justice system was competent enough.

joeysteele 03-05-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5116864)
Im sorry but human rights are taken away from these people once they **** with innocent peoples rights.

Also rehabilitation very rarely works, also these scumbags know what they're doing is wrong so they should be sentenced to life in prison if the justice system was competent enough.

I agree jf, I have lost all patience with these vile people who prey on children.
These sick, vile perverse 'people'? don't even care about a childs dignity or feelings, never mind their human rights.

Niall 03-05-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5116864)
Im sorry but human rights are taken away from these people once they **** with innocent peoples rights.

Also rehabilitation very rarely works, also these scumbags know what they're doing is wrong so they should be sentenced to life in prison if the justice system was competent enough.

I agree with the second part of your post, but to suggest that someone's human rights should be void after committing a crime even of this magnitude is a pretty dangerous attitude to have. I'm not saying I condone what this guy did, but every person in this world, no matter how awful their past actions, deserves to be treated with the same decency as any other human being.

Mystic Mock 03-05-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall (Post 5116963)
I agree with the second part of your post, but to suggest that someone's human rights should be void after committing a crime even of this magnitude is a pretty dangerous attitude to have. I'm not saying I condone what this guy did, but every person in this world, no matter how awful their past actions, deserves to be treated with the same decency as any other human being.

No they should have the basic human rights, im on about where they are not allowed to be punished at all and get PS3's for free and free TV's.

Niall 03-05-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5116974)
No they should have the basic human rights, im on about where they are not allowed to be punished at all and get PS3's for free and free TV's.

Oh. :laugh: Sorry I thought you meant remove their rights completely! I agree with you in that respect, yeah.


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