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arista 08-05-2012 06:58 AM

Queen's advisers tell her to drop 'empire' from honours
 
This was debated on Yesterday on Radio5
and this morning on the dull bbc1 breakfast.

Order British Empire could change to
Order British Excellence.
It would not be a Major problem.

OBE only started 1917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_o...British_Empire
so it needs a update.

Those that have the empire original keep it, of course.

They will mean the same thing.

The Empire Version will go up in Value, as well.


"Huge numbers of people, from the famous to the unsung community volunteer, have been delighted to receive CBEs, OBEs and MBEs.
But in what would be another nail in the coffin of the country’s proud traditions, the Queen’s advisers want to ditch the word Empire from our medals."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1uG6ayGBA


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...24_233x330.jpg
MBE

Z 08-05-2012 07:35 AM

I think that's fair enough, we're not an empire anymore so why still dish out medals that are no longer true to the times?

arista 08-05-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 5125112)
I think that's fair enough, we're not an empire anymore so why still dish out medals that are no longer true to the times?



Some Old Folks and the Daily Mail
do not want a change


So Tough Titty to them.

Z 08-05-2012 07:49 AM

:laugh: Indeed. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the Royal Family. Utterly pointless entity nowadays.

joeysteele 08-05-2012 08:57 AM

Well, for me its more the awards that need to be got rid of when you see some of the people who get them and for what they get them for too.

Most people give to Charities,that shouldn't be a reason for these awards,the people who get them for such are giving out of their vast excess of wealth,the poorer who give to charities are doing so from the little they have.

As was said above though, the Empire has not been relevant for a long while now so this move has been a long time coming to even just be talked about doing.

Omah 08-05-2012 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5125101)
Order British Empire could change to
Order British Excellence.
It would not be a Major problem.

The word "Excellent" is already used, since the Order is composed of five classes in civil and military divisions. In descending order of seniority, these are:
Knight or Dame Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (GBE)
Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (KBE) or Dame Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (DBE)
Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (CBE)
Officer of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (OBE)
Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (MBE)

Omah 08-05-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5125101)
Those that have the empire original keep it, of course.

There are more than 100,000 living members of the Order throughout the world who, no doubt, will be pleased at that suggestion ..... ;)

Ammi 08-05-2012 09:36 AM

..I don't mind the Royal family..they pull in lot's of tourists which is good for the economy but I do think some of the old traditions could do with a little updating....
..I would start off with the National Anthem..it's absolutely dreadful and not uplifting at all imo..we need something really emotional to help us feel patriotic

joeysteele 08-05-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5125141)
..I don't mind the Royal family..they pull in lot's of tourists which is good for the economy but I do think some of the old traditions could do with a little updating....
..I would start off with the National Anthem..it's absolutely dreadful and not uplifting at all imo..we need something really emotional to help us feel patriotic

Totally agree with all you say above Ammi, ''Look to the Rainbow'' for me.:joker:

arista 08-05-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 5125116)
:laugh: Indeed. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the Royal Family. Utterly pointless entity nowadays.



No they are doing a Service
and will stay in UK forever.

Marc 08-05-2012 10:17 AM

Leave the poor woman alone, she'll be dead soon.

arista 08-05-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5125125)
Well, for me its more the awards that need to be got rid of when you see some of the people who get them and for what they get them for too.

Most people give to Charities,that shouldn't be a reason for these awards,the people who get them for such are giving out of their vast excess of wealth,the poorer who give to charities are doing so from the little they have.

As was said above though, the Empire has not been relevant for a long while now so this move has been a long time coming to even just be talked about doing.


No Joey
because as many public people that help a charity
with Hard Work get MBE's


Thats good
and does not effect You.
You Student of the Future

arista 08-05-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5125196)
Leave the poor woman alone, she'll be dead soon.



She may go another 10 years
beyond drug takers
And other Royals take over, anyway.


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