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Mrluvaluva 18-05-2012 09:31 PM

Baby Dies In Waiting Room: Dad Blames Hospital
 
A father whose baby son died after being born in a hospital waiting room has told Sky News he believes his son might have survived if he had been given better care.

Steven Yorke and his partner Sara Proud went to Leicester Royal Infirmary on Sunday night when Sara realised she was in labour.

When they arrived they were told to wait in a side room with other expectant parents.

But 80 minutes later baby Kyle was born while Mr Yorke was trying to find help.

When two midwives did come to assist, the umbilical cord was wrapped around the baby's neck.

Kyle was quickly delivered and rushed off in the hope of being revived, but those attempts were unsuccessful.

Mr Yorke told Sky news: "It's numbing. We're not sleeping well, we're not eating well The slightest thing and we'll cry. Sara's not left the house at all.

"It's affected the children in a big way. What can you say? They’ve let us down.

"I actually believe they neglected us – they didn't give us the care we deserve and that's purely it."

Even after the birth, Sara was left to deliver the placenta in the waiting room and only realised Kyle had died when Mr Yorke found her and told her what had happened.

Leicester Royal Infirmary has admitted that mistakes were made.

Jane Porter, head of midwifery at Leicester's Hospitals said: "We are sorry and sad about the tragic death of Ms Proud's son.

"We have met with Sara and Steven and we will do so again when further investigations have taken place.

"It's clear that we should have seen Sara sooner, what's not clear is whether her baby died during or some time before the birth and only the post mortem will be able to answer that."

The family are now waiting for the result of the post mortem examination to discover whether Kyle could have been saved with better care.


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Why be left in a waiting room to go through something like that? Assistance, it seems, did not come easily.

Jordan. 18-05-2012 10:36 PM

Wow that's ridiculous.

chathappyforum 19-05-2012 07:22 AM

omg i can't belive that .

lostalex 19-05-2012 07:26 AM

How was the hospital staff suppossed to know the cord was wrapped around the babies neck? Obviously there's no way to know.

Sounds like he's trying to blame the hospital for something they couldn't possibly have known about. he had to wait in line or "que" i don't see how the hospital did anything wrong.

Sounds like he thinks the entire hospital should have only catered to his needs, and ignored everyone else. What a selfish man.

Jake. 19-05-2012 08:33 AM

Selfish man? He has lost his son :S no body should be giving birth in a hospital without midwives or at least some assistantance.

Kazanne 19-05-2012 08:51 AM

If the woman and baby had been given proper care,they would have probably noticed something was wrong and could have saved the baby,I'de be furious too selfish or not!!

joeysteele 19-05-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5144819)
If the woman and baby had been given proper care,they would have probably noticed something was wrong and could have saved the baby,I'de be furious too selfish or not!!

Definately, this is a really tragic incident, the Hospital must answer why this lady was left in a waiting room, why no one could be found to come to help with the birth and why she wasn't regularly checked on anyway.

Surely the whole purpose of being at the Hospital for a birth of a baby is because everything and everyone is there that will or could be needed to ensure safe delivery.
Things can go wrong but this has to be laid at the door of the Hospital, the Parents got there in time and there seems to have been massive negligence.

No wonder the Father is in turmoil, it can only be assumed what massive trauma the Mother went through and likely still is.

Redway 19-05-2012 10:16 AM

What an absolute load of nonsense. I would pretty much agree with Alex's post, although I have a little more sympathy with him at this incredibly difficult time.

Patrick 19-05-2012 10:18 AM

The Hospitals in this country really are a complete joke, honestly.

Kizzy 19-05-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5144809)
How was the hospital staff suppossed to know the cord was wrapped around the babies neck? Obviously there's no way to know.

Sounds like he's trying to blame the hospital for something they couldn't possibly have known about. he had to wait in line or "que" i don't see how the hospital did anything wrong.

Sounds like he thinks the entire hospital should have only catered to his needs, and ignored everyone else. What a selfish man.

There is a way to know Alex, you examine during the second stage of labour, which is delivery.
Traditionally in Britain you do not have to 'queue' up to give birth. I'm sure the parents did not expect the staff to neglect any other patients, but to assist in the safe delivery of their son.
In my opinion it is not selfish to expect that during a birth in a waiting area of a hospital, when the lives of both mother and child are at risk, they recieve some sort of assistance before the situation becomes life threatening?...

arista 19-05-2012 10:51 AM

"The family are now waiting for the result of the post mortem examination to discover whether Kyle could have been saved with better care."

Yes that result is needed.

This is sad
and i hope it never happens again.

Z 19-05-2012 11:00 AM

How tragic. I think, more than anything, this underlines just how lacking our NHS is. I think the only solution is to give nurses and other medical staff beyond doctors and surgeons a far better wage so that more people actually consider becoming nurses so that hospitals aren't so critically understaffed. Nurses work such long shifts for so little thanks and money - I can only assume this happened because there weren't enough people around to help. Tragic loss for the couple, it sounds like a needless death.

lostalex 19-05-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5144874)
There is a way to know Alex, you examine during the second stage of labour, which is delivery.
Traditionally in Britain you do not have to 'queue' up to give birth. I'm sure the parents did not expect the staff to neglect any other patients, but to assist in the safe delivery of their son.
In my opinion it is not selfish to expect that during a birth in a waiting area of a hospital, when the lives of both mother and child are at risk, they recieve some sort of assistance before the situation becomes life threatening?...

you do have to "queue" in an emergency room in britian just like every other emergency room in the world though Kizzy. obviously they went to the emergency room.

The doctors were busy saving OTHER lives obviously. Whose life do you think should have been sacrificed for this man's baby? The ER staff do all they can to save as many lives as possible, and this man thinks that they should have ignored others in order to focus on HIS child. so yes, he is being selfish and ignoring the fact that EVERYONE in that ER needed help and care.

Kizzy 19-05-2012 11:02 AM

Don't get me started on the withdrawal of public services zee....:devil:

bbfan1991 19-05-2012 11:05 AM

Tragic story:(, condolences to the family. This highlights more of the fact that there should be more care in hospitals.

Kizzy 19-05-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5144900)
you do have to "queue" in an emergency room in britian just like every other emergency room in the world though Kizzy. obviously they went to the emergency room.

Nope sorry you are wrong alex... Emergencies take priority, if there were 2 men one with a broken finger and one having a heart attack behind him would the doctor suggest he delay dying untill it was his turn?.....No

lostalex 19-05-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5144908)
Nope sorry you are wrong alex... Emergencies take priority, if there were 2 men one with a broken finger and one having a heart attack behind him would the doctor suggest he delay dying untill it was his turn?.....No

Doctors don't make those decisions, obviously Doctors are busy treating patients, not figuring out priority.

joeysteele 19-05-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5144921)
Doctors don't make those decisions, obviously Doctors are busy treating patients, not figuring out priority.

Not here in the UK, I was in an a&e with a friend who had an injury,not a serious one, but there were many other people waiting there too.

One person who had come in just a few minutes after us, seemed quite ill, his wife with him alerted the Nurse who said she would go to se if a Doctor could see him straightaway, the Doctor said yes and he was rushed through.

That is how our NHS works, if someone needs treatment or to be assessed quickly it is done with a Doctors nod.
I cannot think of that many other instances where a baby actually being born could not be classed as an emergency,if only from the safety aspect of the Child and it's Mother but also as to the hygiene elements too.

lostalex 19-05-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5144929)
Not here in the UK, I was in an a&e with a friend who had an injury,not a serious one, but there were many other people waiting there too.

One person who had come in just a few minutes after us, seemed quite ill, his wife with him alerted the Nurse who said she would go to se if a Doctor could see him straightaway, the Doctor said yes and he was rushed through.

That is how our NHS works, if someone needs treatment or to be assessed quickly it is done with a Doctors nod.
I cannot think of that many other instances where a baby actually being born could not be classed as an emergency,if only from the safety aspect of the Child and it's Mother but also as to the hygiene elements too.


funny how women all over the rest of the world manage to give birth quite often without the NHS... go figure... :bored:

Z 19-05-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5144931)
funny how women all over the rest of the world manage to give birth quite often without the NHS... go figure... :bored:

That's either through a lack of availability or personal choice though, Alex. The fact that this particular woman had the option and wanted to make use of it, and it let her down, changes things somewhat. We'll have to see if the blame lies with the hospital or not but even still, it's a bit shocking that she gave birth in the waiting room regardless of whether or not the baby could have been saved.

Kizzy 19-05-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5144929)
Not here in the UK, I was in an a&e with a friend who had an injury,not a serious one, but there were many other people waiting there too.

One person who had come in just a few minutes after us, seemed quite ill, his wife with him alerted the Nurse who said she would go to se if a Doctor could see him straightaway, the Doctor said yes and he was rushed through.

That is how our NHS works, if someone needs treatment or to be assessed quickly it is done with a Doctors nod.
I cannot think of that many other instances where a baby actually being born could not be classed as an emergency,if only from the safety aspect of the Child and it's Mother but also as to the hygiene elements too.

Yes the 'common sense' approach ...

lostalex 19-05-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 5144935)
That's either through a lack of availability or personal choice though, Alex. The fact that this particular woman had the option and wanted to make use of it, and it let her down, changes things somewhat. We'll have to see if the blame lies with the hospital or not but even still, it's a bit shocking that she gave birth in the waiting room regardless of whether or not the baby could have been saved.

i'm just saying that giving birth is not necessarily the most high priority in an emergency room.

Kizzy 19-05-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5144944)
i'm just saying that giving birth is not necessarily the most high priority in an emergency room.

Really, a life threatening situation for the baby and the mother...not priority..Ok in your opinion what would take priority over that?

lostalex 19-05-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5144951)
Really, a life threatening situation for the baby and the mother...not priority..Ok in your opinion what would take priority over that?

They had no way of knowing that the baby was being strangled by the umbelical chord. you are playing monday morning quarterback.

Z 19-05-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5144944)
i'm just saying that giving birth is not necessarily the most high priority in an emergency room.

And I agree with you. I assume she was left on her own in the ER waiting room because the staff were already stretched and had too much to do. It's not like they'd have callously ignored her if they'd been able to do anything. British hospitals need more staff and resources.


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