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sampvt 07-08-2012 11:33 AM

Confidence or arrogance
 
Is Deana confident or just arrogant. Personally I think it is a bit of both. She has gained confidence because her long time nemesis has gone and this new found situation is showing her actions as somewhat aggressive and arrogant.

She no longer has the Victim cards to play as the HM,s in there are either weak or non aggressive and those storylines are played out, so she has had to kick it up a notch to keep the airtime going. Having a go at Luke s was planned and funny but the dizzy do with ash over the toast wasnt and we saw the true Deana, nasty and quite aggressive.

Over the last few weeks we have all seen that she is well capable of spitting venom and no doubt she will continue because I honestly believe that somehow she has either been told, or she believes herself, that the way to win is to go aggressive. What she dosent realise is that there is a fine line between aggressive and funny behaviour and Bullying.

The great British public love to support the underdog, especially one that is being victimised, but they can also turn in a heartbeat and go against those that show these traits if they change tact and get uncovered for being an actress with aims that contradict their earlier views.

Deana kicked of the season with a strong plan which included her being righteous and butter would melt attitude and won a lot of hearts even if these reasons were self manufactured, BUT NOW, she is acting like Rambo and many of her followers are voicing concerns as to whether they were conned. Once that starts, she will loose support quicker than a rabbit down a hole.

Her arguments with ash and Luke s and even Scott are low profile, wait till she butts heads with Luke a..........the public will then turn and she is toast. Problem is she knows this and it may not happen as she is good and very calculated.

Now I can wait for the one liners like....loads of words saying nowt......total crap......Bull****, you know the likes that the Deana army post. lol, so predictable.

chuff me dizzy 07-08-2012 11:36 AM

Arrogant from the night she walked down the stairs

Beso 07-08-2012 11:41 AM

If you think it's a bit of both why just concentrate on one side, go on I dare you to give us a two paragraph reply on the confident side you believe her to have.

Kizzy 07-08-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5380978)
Is Deana confident or just arrogant. Personally I think it is a bit of both. She has gained confidence because her long time nemesis has gone and this new found situation is showing her actions as somewhat aggressive and arrogant.

She no longer has the Victim cards to play as the HM,s in there are either weak or non aggressive and those storylines are played out, so she has had to kick it up a notch to keep the airtime going. Having a go at Luke s was planned and funny but the dizzy do with ash over the toast wasnt and we saw the true Deana, nasty and quite aggressive.

Over the last few weeks we have all seen that she is well capable of spitting venom and no doubt she will continue because I honestly believe that somehow she has either been told, or she believes herself, that the way to win is to go aggressive. What she dosent realise is that there is a fine line between aggressive and funny behaviour and Bullying.

The great British public love to support the underdog, especially one that is being victimised, but they can also turn in a heartbeat and go against those that show these traits if they change tact and get uncovered for being an actress with aims that contradict their earlier views.

Deana kicked of the season with a strong plan which included her being righteous and butter would melt attitude and won a lot of hearts even if these reasons were self manufactured, BUT NOW, she is acting like Rambo and many of her followers are voicing concerns as to whether they were conned. Once that starts, she will loose support quicker than a rabbit down a hole.

Her arguments with ash and Luke s and even Scott are low profile, wait till she butts heads with Luke a..........the public will then turn and she is toast. Problem is she knows this and it may not happen as she is good and very calculated.

Now I can wait for the one liners like....loads of words saying nowt......total crap......Bull****, you know the likes that the Deana army post. lol, so predictable.

And praise the lord he has! haha!
You are correct , she was indeed victimised. It's a shame you don't know the difference between assertive and aggressive behaviour though.

Black Dagger 07-08-2012 11:46 AM

Am I supposed to take her being branded 'arrogant' seriously? :rolleyes:

smeagol 07-08-2012 11:47 AM

how many deana hate threads do u need.
is this a kids forum or something.

Bojangles 07-08-2012 11:47 AM

I'm sure Deana feels she is now ruling the house.Somewhat deluded me thinks.

Munchkins 07-08-2012 11:48 AM

Confidence - she can finally say her views and argue with someone one on one, rather than having to relay a discussion to Conor and Becky, and have them down her throat
She can be her self without having to worry :)

chuff me dizzy 07-08-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bojangles (Post 5381009)
I'm sure Deana feels she is now ruling the house.Somewhat deluded me thinks.

Oh yes deluded,but its proving to be her downfall ,so all good

Black Dagger 07-08-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5381013)
Deana is confident, despite being challenged more than any other female in the house. But let's face it, what is the point of contributing to these threads? The rabid, hysterical anti-Deana camp may only consist of a few people but they have the most to say. Lots and lots of words saying the same thing over and over and over, desperately trying to prove their point and failing time and again. Meanwhile Deana's support is greater than any other housemate in there.

:lovedup:

sampvt 07-08-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 5380995)
If you think it's a bit of both why just concentrate on one side, go on I dare you to give us a two paragraph reply on the confident side you believe her to have.

I offered opinions as to how or why she was going down which route, if you think I am going to promote your girl by offering reasons why she is confident, you are deluded. My post was clear and precise. I asked if she was confident or arrogant. Draw your own conclusions based on the perpoderance of evidence at hand.

If You think she is confident, post your own thoughts or start your own thread instead of undermining mine. :xyxwave:

alex_front2 07-08-2012 11:52 AM

People who have a problem with Deana's confidence imo tend to be men who think women should shut up or stepford women who believe their inferior to men.

Beso 07-08-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5381025)
I offered opinions as to how or why she was going down which route, if you think I am going to promote your girl by offering reasons why she is confident, you are deluded. My post was clear and precise. I asked if she was confident or arrogant. Draw your own conclusions based on the perpoderance of evidence at hand.

If You think she is confident, post your own thoughts or start your own thread instead of undermining mine. :xyxwave:

sorry, it was just you said you thought she was a bit of both, but then you just concentrated on the one side, it was and is, a very lazy thought out post in my opinion.

reece(: 07-08-2012 11:54 AM

I stopped reading OP at "victim card" because i'm sick of that bull**** being thrown left, right and centre. This irrational hate is just getting OTT now.

cassieparis 07-08-2012 11:58 AM

Well she inspires more lure, scrutiny, fascination, analysis, consideration, magnetism power than the other H/ms. So I get the compulsion.

InOne 07-08-2012 12:03 PM

She has been hit with the Freddie curse of knowing she's popular. Now she thinks she can drop the mask and just ride it out being a complete idiot. She is very much mistaken.

Niamh. 07-08-2012 12:06 PM

Closed for Cleaning, can I ask everyone to stick to discussing the topic and not eachother when I reopen it please.

Beso 07-08-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5381056)
She has been hit with the Freddie curse of knowing she's popular. Now she thinks she can drop the mask and just ride it out being a complete idiot. She is very much mistaken.

but is she doing anything differently.

Munchkins 07-08-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5381056)
She has been hit with the Freddie curse of knowing she's popular. Now she thinks she can drop the mask and just ride it out being a complete idiot. She is very much mistaken.

Difference was Freddie did this weeks before the end
This is a week before the end for Deana - why should she care anymore, i love how shes just saying it how she feels now

chuff me dizzy 07-08-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 5381065)
but is she doing anything differently.

No ,shes been this way since she went in

InOne 07-08-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 5381065)
but is she doing anything differently.

You tell me...

halfacrown 07-08-2012 12:12 PM

Dean arrived in the house already fully formed, self-aware and confident. Lydia, Benedict and Victoria were in the same bracket but they have all gone, sadly. Deana has made her allies and bided her time; she chooses her time to speak and her enemies very well. In addition, she's natural, occasionally ratty and sometimes doesn't give a *******, I honestly don't think she's that worried about winning, which is why she possibly will.

InOne 07-08-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkins (Post 5381071)
Difference was Freddie did this weeks before the end
This is a week before the end for Deana - why should she care anymore, i love how shes just saying it how she feels now

She's played a good game, but it depends how far she takes it. The vote for the winner has not started yet so if she messes up before that she could hinder her chances. And it's not looking good, the mask has slipped...

Kizzy 07-08-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5381073)
You tell me...

I'll tell you, she is doing nothing differently.
It's just all the whooping babboons that leapt about screeching at each other everytime she opened her mouth have left....conor the silverback and his parasitic followers arron, caroline and becky.
We still have ash grooming luke S squeezing his spots and leaving chunks of his fur everywhere marking their territory...Once those two chimps have left the savannah peace will be restored.

InOne 07-08-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5381110)
I'll tell you, she is doing nothing differently.
It's just all the whooping babboons that leapt about screeching at each other everytime she opened her mouth have left....conor the silverback and his parasitic followers arron, caroline and becky.
We still have ash grooming luke S squeezing his spots and leaving chunks of his fur everywhere marking their territory...Once those two chimps have left the savannah peace will be restored.

There have been quite a few people who have mentioned NuDeana. Even like the morning after they left her behaviour changed, she was running round the living room making plane noises, and then started her passive agressive attitude. From then on it was making fun of Sara, taunting Luke S, making Adam and Luke A feel very uncomfortable, and then striking up awkward convos with Scott. She has definitely changed, even her fans have said so all over this board.


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