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Vicky. 31-08-2012 12:46 PM

Squatting to be a criminal offence as of tomorrow
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19429936

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Squatting in a residential building in England and Wales becomes a criminal offence on Saturday, meaning squatters would face jail or a fine.

Ministers said it would offer better protection for homeowners and "slam shut the door on squatters once and for all".

The maximum penalty will be six months in jail, a £5,000 fine, or both.

I agree with this totally. I see no reason at all why some people could get away with not having to pay housing costs and that when everyone else has to, and could just decide to occupy a property and the owner had a hard job removing them. I cant believe its taken this long to do this tbh, the squatters rights thing was absolute bullshine.

Kate! 31-08-2012 12:48 PM

Well it's about time.

This has been a ridiculous situation for far too long.

Great news indeed.

Niamh. 31-08-2012 01:07 PM

Echoing Kate, about time! Hopefully we'll follow suit over here as well. Squatters rights my hole.

Apple202 31-08-2012 01:10 PM

Should never have been allowed.

Me. I Am Salman 31-08-2012 01:13 PM

Poor Shabby :joker::joker:

MTVN 31-08-2012 01:24 PM

Problem is there's almost a million homes empty in the UK, over 300,000 of which have had nobody living in them for over 6 months and at the same time the number of people homeless is sky rocketing...

Vicky. 31-08-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5451864)
Problem is there's almost a million homes empty in the UK, over 300,000 of which have had nobody living in them for over 6 months and at the same time the number of people homeless is sky rocketing...

But a house being empty shouldnt mean that people can just chose to live there for free.

I do think though, that while bringing this new law in, the government should be finding a way to give extra support to the homeless though. Especially given that once this crappy new bedroom tax kicks in we will have even MORE homeless people.

But I dont think giving rights to squatters is acceptable. People who own houses are being stuck with massive legal bills from trying to remove the squatters, as police werent previously allowed to remove them and it had to go through courts. Its simply not fair, even if the house was empty, its not theirs to live in.

Kizzy 31-08-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5451864)
Problem is there's almost a million homes empty in the UK, over 300,000 of which have had nobody living in them for over 6 months and at the same time the number of people homeless is sky rocketing...

I don't agree with squatting but you are right, the amount of homes going derelict while families are crying out for affordable housing is disgusting.

lostalex 31-08-2012 02:09 PM

I don't understand how it was ever legal to begin with. Isn't it trespassing anyway?

Mystic Mock 31-08-2012 11:54 PM

About time, I can't believe that it's took so long to be enforced.

Redway 01-09-2012 01:36 AM

:worship:

Jords 01-09-2012 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5451864)
Problem is there's almost a million homes empty in the UK, over 300,000 of which have had nobody living in them for over 6 months and at the same time the number of people homeless is sky rocketing...

I think this is a very good point.

Shaun 01-09-2012 03:54 AM

On the surface it's a logical move, but I agree with kizzy & MTVN in that this will just increase the number of homeless on the streets. Nobody really wins.

Vicky. 27-09-2012 09:49 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19753414

First person to be jailed for squatting.

Scarlett. 27-09-2012 09:50 PM

I feel sorry for homeless squatters, but this law needed to be brought in because of those annoying hippy sorts who moved into the houses because "I don't wanna be part of the system maaaaaaaaaaaan"

Vicky. 27-09-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 5513827)
I feel sorry for homeless squatters, but this law needed to be brought in because of those annoying hippy sorts who moved into the houses because "I don't wanna be part of the system maaaaaaaaaaaan"

Yes, I have a 'friend' like that.

Spends all her money on alcohol and drugs, whilst squatting and being a 'freegan'...basically eating out of supermarket bins. She has a perfectly good home that she could go to, but choses to squat instead. Its ****ing annoying seeing her rants on facebook about being 'moved on' by the evil police in various countries. Despite being on the sick (aspergers, though it REALY doesnt affect her much, very mild form) she moves from country to country squatting with a group of about 20 others. From her rants it seems the police in other countries werent always as accepting of squatters as ours were ;)

Edit. Come to think of it, she might be half of the reason why I have absolutely 0 sympathy for squatters in general :suspect:

Maia 27-09-2012 09:57 PM

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31-08-2012
Oh so this is what I was hearing about on the radio in the car to London

Scarlett. 27-09-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5513838)
Yes, I have a 'friend' like that.

Spends all her money on alcohol and drugs, whilst squatting and being a 'freegan'...basically eating out of supermarket bins. She has a perfectly good home that she could go to, but choses to squat instead. Its ****ing annoying seeing her rants on facebook about being 'moved on' by the evil police in various countries. Despite being on the sick (aspergers, though it REALY doesnt affect her much, very mild form) she moves from country to country squatting with a group of about 20 others. From her rants it seems the police in other countries werent always as accepting of squatters as ours were ;)

The most annoying thing is, they don't like "the system" yet they scrounge of people who are part of the system. I wouldnt mind if they went to some remote woods and set up a hippy farm lol.

Nedusa 27-09-2012 10:18 PM

I agree with this law especially when it's clear the property is occupied and the occupiers happen to be away at the time. The law does not protect property owners or tenants in these instances.

However, property bought to simply to lie empty just to appreciate is fair game.

The trouble is the two examples are bound to overlap and that's where the problems lie.

thesheriff443 27-09-2012 10:22 PM

lets be clear! there are two totally different issues going on in this thread.
if you own a house you can leave it empty!thats your right
squaters are mongrels who choose to drop out of society

Nedusa 27-09-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5513895)
lets be clear! there are two totally different issues going on in this thread.
if you own a house you can leave it empty!thats your right
squaters are mongrels who choose to drop out of society

I agree , let's hope this new law can differentiate between the two...!!!

thesheriff443 27-09-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5513901)
I agree , let's hope this new law can differentiate between the two...!!!

well some people think if its empty it gives them the right to break in and in most cases cause thousands of pounds of damage.
its the same as saying i have no money but someone has some that they are not useing so i will take that.

MTVN 27-09-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5513908)
well some people think if its empty it gives them the right to break in and in most cases cause thousands of pounds of damage.
its the same as saying i have no money but someone has some that they are not useing so i will take that.

All I'm saying is it makes absolute no financial/economical/moral sense to have hundreds of thousands of empty homes that are literally being put to no use while at the same time homelessness is becoming more and more of a problem, in what way do you think that is fair?

thesheriff443 27-09-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5513930)
All I'm saying is it makes absolute no financial/economical/moral sense to have hundreds of thousands of empty homes that are literally being put to no use while at the same time homelessness is becoming more and more of a problem, in what way do you think that is fair?

people that own houses didnt sit on their arses to buy them what they choose to do with them is thier right
its not thier fault the goverment has not invested enough into houseing
also our world is fcuked up in that we will spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on junkies but a family man who has worked his whole life cant get the drugs he needs to prolong his life beacuse they cost too much.

Jake. 27-09-2012 10:45 PM

Damn, I missed my chance to squat?


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