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sampvt 21-01-2013 11:19 PM

Ian right on the money
 
Ian was bang right tonight, Speidi have gone too far. They are top of the polls for people that want them in the house, which is understandable as they are interesting as well as controvertia,l so its easy to vindicate their popularity, but on the other polls they are top by votes from people that dont want them to win. It is now easy to see why some FM,s have been fooled into thinking they have a chance of winning. There are no polls showing them to be the voters favs to win, people just want them there to basically laugh at and hate, thats a pretty damming indicment into what people think of them.

He also made a valid point, they have lost the mother and women votes now and even some of their supporters that liked them have deserted them due to their latest and unessessary act of nastiness. It no longer matters who or what they are, they will never win on these shores in any reality show and probably wont be invited back such is their blatant love of nastiness.

Ryan said tonight they are paid to be villians and they do a good job. Most people are having a hard time understanding who they are, in fact I honestly think they have both lost sight of who they are themselves. They have been paid to be nasty for so long, they cant detach themselves from that world so they are at the same time, media stars but also media *****s for our viewing pleasure.

Some people love to see them in action, some love to laugh at their patetic actions, both watch tv and make Ch5 popular but they wont find many outside the house willing to embrace them for a job well done as they have gone past entertaining into the world of nastiness. I for one wont be watching any more BB series that have anyone like them in again. It is supposed to be a gathering of celebs we all know making fun of eachother and providing us with laughs, I doubt if anyone wanted the series to be about hatred and nastiness.

Withano 21-01-2013 11:59 PM

You realise they're topping most 'who do you want to win' polls, right?

sampvt 22-01-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBrother3232 (Post 5784819)
You realise they're topping most 'who do you want to win' polls, right?

Ive just listned to a re run and he clearly states they are top of the who do you want in the house and who do you hate or dont want to win polls. How can they be top of the vote to win polls as well, all very confusing.

Jake. 22-01-2013 12:07 AM

It's great they are still in there, they are great HM's but I do not want them to win.

Withano 22-01-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5784828)
Ive just listned to a re run and he clearly states they are top of the who do you want in the house and who do you hate or dont want to win polls. How can they be top of the vote to win polls as well, all very confusing.

On BBspy I think he says, There are several other websites with vote to win polls, which they top.
And if 50% of voters like them most whilst 50% of voters hate them the most they would top both seperate polls

These aren't the actual numbers, just trying to explain it

Brother Leon 22-01-2013 12:52 AM

The who do you not want to win polls mean jack **** in a Vote To Win scenario though...

Patrick 22-01-2013 01:00 AM

I honestly find these 'They are good housemates but they shouldn't win' arguments ridiculous.

Wise up. We aren't electing a Prime Minister or deciding who should win a Nobel Peace Prize - This is Big Brother, we SHOULD be voting based on who has given us the best series over the past month.
And that's without a doubt been Heidi and Spencer, I honestly don't know why some people still decide their Big Brother winner based on how nice a person they are.

Who gives a sh*t? I'd vote Hitler the winner of Big Brother if he brought a few laughs and quality storylines to the show.

The people who don't find Speidi entertaining are the same people who thought Karissa and Kristina were rubbish TV and that Natalie Cassidy was the Nation's sweetheart.

rk3388 22-01-2013 02:10 AM

why do you always post the same stuff about speidi???? its obssessive and if i were them id be scared for my lives :(

rk3388 22-01-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 5784983)
I honestly find these 'They are good housemates but they shouldn't win' arguments ridiculous.

Wise up. We aren't electing a Prime Minister or deciding who should win a Nobel Peace Prize - This is Big Brother, we SHOULD be voting based on who has given us the best series over the past month.
And that's without a doubt been Heidi and Spencer, I honestly don't know why some people still decide their Big Brother winner based on how nice a person they are.

Who gives a sh*t? I'd vote Hitler the winner of Big Brother if he brought a few laughs and quality storylines to the show.
The people who don't find Speidi entertaining are the same people who thought Karissa and Kristina were rubbish TV and that Natalie Cassidy was the Nation's sweetheart.

:shocked:

Cherie 22-01-2013 07:13 AM

[QUOTE=Patrick;5784983]I honestly find these 'They are good housemates but they shouldn't win' arguments ridiculous.



I can't understand that either, so they are great HMs but some people would rather some bore who has done nothing for 3 weeks wins. Mind boggling

MeMyselfAndI 22-01-2013 07:18 AM

Yeah, too far Patrick /:

Cherie 22-01-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5784683)
Ian was bang right tonight, Speidi have gone too far. They are top of the polls for people that want them in the house, which is understandable as they are interesting as well as controvertia,l so its easy to vindicate their popularity, but on the other polls they are top by votes from people that dont want them to win. It is now easy to see why some FM,s have been fooled into thinking they have a chance of winning. There are no polls showing them to be the voters favs to win, people just want them there to basically laugh at and hate, thats a pretty damming indicment into what people think of them.

He also made a valid point, they have lost the mother and women votes now and even some of their supporters that liked them have deserted them due to their latest and unessessary act of nastiness. It no longer matters who or what they are, they will never win on these shores in any reality show and probably wont be invited back such is their blatant love of nastiness.

Ryan said tonight they are paid to be villians and they do a good job. Most people are having a hard time understanding who they are, in fact I honestly think they have both lost sight of who they are themselves. They have been paid to be nasty for so long, they cant detach themselves from that world so they are at the same time, media stars but also media *****s for our viewing pleasure.

Some people love to see them in action, some love to laugh at their patetic actions, both watch tv and make Ch5 popular but they wont find many outside the house willing to embrace them for a job well done as they have gone past entertaining into the world of nastiness. I for one wont be watching any more BB series that have anyone like them in again. It is supposed to be a gathering of celebs we all know making fun of eachother and providing us with laughs, I doubt if anyone wanted the series to be about hatred and nastiness.


Really :conf: I don't think many people have been fooled at all, its not all about the winning its about keeping entertaining HMs in for as long as possible. The GBP are great at picking some sheet winners going on past experience and this year will be no different.:sleep:

Johnnyuk123 22-01-2013 07:54 AM

Team Speidi all the way!!!

sampvt 22-01-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rk3388 (Post 5785093)
why do you always post the same stuff about speidi???? its obssessive and if i were them id be scared for my lives :(

Thanks for taking time to read my post, it is obviously better thought out than your reply but judging by who you have previously supported, your getting used to loosing so Ill take that into concideration. My posts are not all the same, however they do include the chosen 2 because they stand out for being vile and disgusting, something I feel proud to campaign against. The problem I have is I get no pleasure out of watching them at work as you obviously do so lets both agree to disagree. Have a nice day.

chuff me dizzy 22-01-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBrother3232 (Post 5784819)
You realise they're topping most 'who do you want to win' polls, right?

AND topping the DONT want to win polls too

Kazanne 22-01-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5785387)
Thanks for taking time to read my post, it is obviously better thought out than your reply but judging by who you have previously supported, your getting used to loosing so Ill take that into concideration. My posts are not all the same, however they do include the chosen 2 because they stand out for being vile and disgusting, something I feel proud to campaign against. The problem I have is I get no pleasure out of watching them at work as you obviously do so lets both agree to disagree. Have a nice day.

Why do certain people think they have the right to tell others what they should be posting about?If you want to post about a certian hm8 all day long it's surely none of their business,bet they wouldn't complain is they were positive comments,anyway sampvt,I enjoy reading your posts,post away:xyxwave:

sampvt 22-01-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 5785390)
Why do certain people think they have the right to tell others what they should be posting about?If you want to post about a certian hm8 all day long it's surely none of their business,bet they wouldn't complain is they were positive comments,anyway sampvt,I enjoy reading your posts,post away:xyxwave:



Thanks Kazanne, I love writing them, but like so many, these antis are making posting a little less fun. It was great a few yrs ago with Aaron and then it went downhill with Deana, now its pretty scary. Healthy debate seems to be quashed this year by the sheer numbers of people hijacking anti Speidi threads, but like Chuff and your good self, we battle on and when the winning line comes we celebrate and the anti,s just slip away.

chuff me dizzy 22-01-2013 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 5785390)
Why do certain people think they have the right to tell others what they should be posting about?If you want to post about a certian hm8 all day long it's surely none of their business,bet they wouldn't complain is they were positive comments,anyway sampvt,I enjoy reading your posts,post away:xyxwave:

I wonder if same trolls ask same of all the Rylan threads on here ?

Black Dagger 22-01-2013 09:27 AM

LMAO 'we're the victims' again, now this is what I call boring. ****ing hell.

sampvt 22-01-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 5785398)
LMAO 'we're the victims' again, now this is what I call boring. ****ing hell.

Lucas we never call ourselves the victims but if you read your post, it carries a hidden insult, so the sheer volume of these types of posts THAT ARE NOT ABOUT HM,s, THEY ARE ABOUT US, ARE NOT ONLY OFF TOPIC BUT THEY ARE UNECESSARY AND DISTURBING. Why cant you just accept that you have your views and we have ours. NOTHING CLEVER ABOUT INSULTING ANOTHER FM MATE.

I guess your post not only explains my posts content, it proves yet again why a lot of interesting debaters have left the forum.

chuff me dizzy 22-01-2013 09:39 AM

Vote Now!
CBB 11 - Who is your favourite housemate? [Gillian Evicted]
Speidi 40.5%
Rylan 37.8%
Razor 7.1%
Ryan 6.7%
Claire 5.2%
Frankie 1.5%
Tricia 1.3%

Total votes: 524
You have already voted!




CBB 11 - Who is your least favourite housemate? [Gillian Evicted]
Speidi 49.3%
Rylan 19.4%
Tricia 10.7%
Ryan 7.4%
Claire 7.0%
Razor 3.9%
Frankie 2.3%

Total votes: 515
You have already voted


As you can see they are more DISLIKED than LIKED on here ,and more people have voted on LIKE poll than DISLIKE
Hope this shuts you up ?

Patricia4 22-01-2013 09:57 AM

They are very entertaining Im very pleased they are still there they have saved BB for me.

Trasadkel1 22-01-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5785410)
Lucas we never call ourselves the victims but if you read your post, it carries a hidden insult, so the sheer volume of these types of posts THAT ARE NOT ABOUT HM,s, THEY ARE ABOUT US, ARE NOT ONLY OFF TOPIC BUT THEY ARE UNECESSARY AND DISTURBING. Why cant you just accept that you have your views and we have ours. NOTHING CLEVER ABOUT INSULTING ANOTHER FM MATE.

I guess your post not only explains my posts content, it proves yet again why a lot of interesting debaters have left the forum.

Couldn't agree with you more. I have been put off posting on here this CBB for the same reason.

I know that obviously certain people find it entertaining when people, who obviously have no social morals at all, and thrive on upsetting and making other people's lives a misery all under the guise that they are "playing the game".

Personally Speide and their almost fanatical support has ruined this BB for me. I do not find them entertaining at all. I like the fun aspect of BB and this series there has been so much focus on Speide and confrontation and messing about with rules and regs that the series has just descended into chaos. I hope that this is a lesson learnt to the BB producers that no one should be bigger than the show no matter how much they have been paid and I hope that this doesn't set a precedent for future BB's.

chuff me dizzy 22-01-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trasadkel1 (Post 5785474)
Couldn't agree with you more. I have been put off posting on here this CBB for the same reason.

I know that obviously certain people find it entertaining when people, who obviously have no social morals at all, and thrive on upsetting and making other people's lives a misery all under the guise that they are "playing the game".

Personally Speide and their almost fanatical support has ruined this BB for me. I do not find them entertaining at all. I like the fun aspect of BB and this series there has been so much focus on Speide and confrontation and messing about with rules and regs that the series has just descended into chaos. I hope that this is a lesson learnt to the BB producers that no one should be bigger than the show no matter how much they have been paid and I hope that this doesn't set a precedent for future BB's.

Dont be put off ,you have as much right to post as anyone else,this is what the trolls want ,dont back own

sampvt 22-01-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trasadkel1 (Post 5785474)
Couldn't agree with you more. I have been put off posting on here this CBB for the same reason.

I know that obviously certain people find it entertaining when people, who obviously have no social morals at all, and thrive on upsetting and making other people's lives a misery all under the guise that they are "playing the game".

Personally Speide and their almost fanatical support has ruined this BB for me. I do not find them entertaining at all. I like the fun aspect of BB and this series there has been so much focus on Speide and confrontation and messing about with rules and regs that the series has just descended into chaos. I hope that this is a lesson learnt to the BB producers that no one should be bigger than the show no matter how much they have been paid and I hope that this doesn't set a precedent for future BB's.

Unfortunately every year this happens. People that love to pull the wings of flies troll the forum slagging people off and throwing their little one liners generally laced with insults and profanities supporting loosers, only to disappear and return the following year to do it all again and it never gets any better.

Putting up with it can be hard and occassionally someone pipes up and says so the wrong way driven by rage and boom, they get kicked off (rightly so BTW) but the underlying reasons are never looked at. For example.......

Last week in a post I was vitriolically challenged to find any sites that were posting nude pics of Heidi. I was called a scaremonger and a liar as they didnt exist......Naturally off I went and googled the subject and on the first pass, hey ho, I found some. Naturally I re posted stating the find, NOW THAT SAME PERSON POKES FUN AT ME FOR BEING A PERV AND TROLLING THE AIRWAYS LOOKING FOR PICS OF HER.

These anti anything but their favs are professional pains in the arse and normal posters like me are driven to dispair and either get banned or leave never to return and it happens every year. Obviously they remain and pick out their next victims. You only need to look at what crap me and Chuff have to deal with. Why do we get it, because we are passionat about our views, something that should be applauded not punished.


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