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JamesBond007 05-02-2013 04:40 AM

As much as i hated seen Sam been bullied by Lesley...
 
she certainly didn't help herself with the other housemates.

after watching BB6 on youtube after not seen it for years some thing stuck out with me with Sam second time round:)

With Lesley, i think that was just out and out jealousy from Lesley from day one. Lesley wanted all the guys all to say she was the sexy one and her jealously towards Sam and Saskia (although she knew Saskia wouldn't take her ****) and how Maxwell slagged her off about her breasts in the rap song task really bought that hatred to the brim and Sam was a easy target, starting with her make up bag and insulting her. Lesley was in the wrong pure and simple.

Now onto other Hm's accused of bullying her (Derek), Sam wasn't exactly going out of her way to get to know everyone in the house ( she stuck to Maxwell, Saskia and Anthony from day one) I never saw her once trying to have a conversation with the others and came across a bit up herself (the way she told Derek to buzz off out of Kitchen was a bit rude maybe not meant in a malice way but Derek had every right to snap back at her imo)which didn't go unnoticed with the others and made her a easy target for noms. She certainly was naive and a bit dumb to play the game even Maxwell, Saskia and Anthony got fed up cause she just sit in a bikini and nod and smile also Anthony got accused of bullying with his bare ass nom of her (he was foolish but i don't personally think that was bullying her). She was basically left by herself in the end and basically acting like a stroppy teenage saying she hated everyone when in fact she dug the hole for herself with not getting to know everyone.

Was she bullied?
yes by Lesley but by Derek and Anthony no

Was she at fault?
Not with Lesley that was jealousy but she wasn't as innocent as she's made out when it came to others in the house.

Shaun 05-02-2013 05:22 AM

Derek's my fave HM of all time but I have to admit I thought he was a bit harsh towards her over the kitchen thing. All she said was "OK thanks you can go away now"... on paper it might sound rude but it was said quite harmlessly, and he just went off on some rant about how she was a stupid little girl LOL

It was amusing, but quite uncalled for.

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5814915)
Derek's my fave HM of all time but I have to admit I thought he was a bit harsh towards her over the kitchen thing. All she said was "OK thanks you can go away now"... on paper it might sound rude but it was said quite harmlessly, and he just went off on some rant about how she was a stupid little girl LOL

It was amusing, but quite uncalled for.

I think its the way she said it was quite rude, i think it could have been taken as been kind of dismissive to someone like Derek. Yes he over reacted but i understood its quite insulting come from a 19 year old girl. She didn't help herself really in that house as much as i did pity her . she wasn't always the nice girl she's painted as.

LemonJam 05-02-2013 07:37 AM

She fact that she was completely harmless and managed to be the most hated housemate in there for 3 weeks is genuinely hilarious considering the rest of the characters in there. :laugh:

thesheriff443 05-02-2013 07:45 AM

met sam at audition's, she was very sweet,im sure she auditioned for the first round topless with body paint.:hugesmile:

Vanessa 05-02-2013 07:48 AM

Ugh! I hate bullies and Lesley was vile. Sam was nice. She didn't deserve the way she was treated. Lesley was jealous of her looks. :nono:

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5814949)
Ugh! I hate bullies and Lesley was vile. Sam was nice. She didn't deserve the way she was treated. Lesley was jealous of her looks. :nono:

She was jealous of any girl she taught was pretty then her. The snide remarks she made about saskia on the opening night was a clear shown of her vile side. Sam certainly wasn't able to stand up to her cause Lesley had pretty much everyone on her side simply unlike Sam she didn't cut herself off.

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LemonJam (Post 5814940)
She fact that she was completely harmless and managed to be the most hated housemate in there for 3 weeks is genuinely hilarious considering the rest of the characters in there. :laugh:

I taught her biggest weakness was she was so unaware of everything in the house. That a lot of the house taught she never made little effort to mix with everyone apart from Anthony and Maxwell (which was true), which came to bite her on the bum when they dropped her later on and nommed her. Which clearly led to her been hated by everyone apart from Science.

thesheriff443 05-02-2013 08:01 AM

saskia did not like sam as she was competition for her, she wanted to be top dog!
and her saying, dog eat dog.

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5814945)
met sam at audition's, she was very sweet,im sure she auditioned for the first round topless with body paint.:hugesmile:

She did really go in there to be the sex object and nothing else really sadly. She was accused by nearly everybody in the house of just sitting around half naked not having anything to say which sadly was true. Nice but dim but later to find out she had a breakdown was sad.

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5814954)
saskia did not like sam as she was competition for her, she wanted to be top dog!
and her saying, dog eat dog.

She would have been Sheriff if Makosi was there :joker:. She was owned during Cidergate which ruined her and led to her eviction soon after.

She effectivly got the guys (maxwell and anthony) to get rid of Sam and they got Craig instead into their little group. Even Sam noticed it saying she hated them even more.

thesheriff443 05-02-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond007 (Post 5814955)
She did really go in there to be the sex object and nothing else really sadly. She was accused by nearly everybody in the house of just sitting around half naked not having anything to say which sadly was true. Nice but dim but later to find out she had a breakdown was sad.

i think saskia was also a sex object with her massive tit's:shocked:
i met her also that year and filled out my application next to her:hugesmile:
the male producer who put her thru came over to talk to her and asked how many men talk to your breast's rather than you? as he was looking at her breast's!,

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5814962)
i think saskia was also a sex object with her massive tit's:shocked:
i met her also that year and filled out my application next to her:hugesmile:
the male producer who put her thru came over to talk to her and asked how many men talk to your breast's rather than you? as he was looking at her breast's!,

Maybe she was but she didn't walk around in a Bikini 24/7 lol. I think Saskia became the house bitch (amazing in a house full of nasty people :shocked:). Sam i felt was the Hm who clearly would have done better in BB7. But you could see straight away she knew she was in a nightmare. She certainly didn't help herself in a way but she wasn't up for a fight.

Omah 05-02-2013 09:48 AM

Leslah Quotes:
 
'I don't need to be told I'm gorgeous, I know I am.'

''Ive got the biggest t*ts in Huddersfield, me. Apart from me mum. And me aunty.'

IIRC, the appalling Sanderson slung her naked udders over the edge of the pool long before midnight on day 1 ..... :eek:

Vanessa 05-02-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5815025)
'I don't need to be told I'm gorgeous, I know I am.'

''Ive got the biggest t*ts in Huddersfield, me. Apart from me mum. And me aunty.'

IIRC, the appalling Sanderson slung her naked udders over the edge of the pool long before midnight on day 1 ..... :eek:

Ugh! Lesleh was vile! Ugly outside and inside! :conf2::yuk:

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5815025)
'I don't need to be told I'm gorgeous, I know I am.'

''Ive got the biggest t*ts in Huddersfield, me. Apart from me mum. And me aunty.'

IIRC, the appalling Sanderson slung her naked udders over the edge of the pool long before midnight on day 1 ..... :eek:

The rap Maxwell did on her t*t's was worth his place in the house and the fight she had with him after it was funny. The only time i was on Maxwell oh when he burned those Spures boxers too :joker:

Amy Jade 05-02-2013 12:28 PM

I think Lesley bullied Sam too, Sam was the quietest of the group and one of the prettiest and I think Lesley expected to be the 'hot one' but Saskia and Sam were prettier and more popular and Lesley delt with it by being nasty to them but Saskia was a bit more savvy than Sam so Lesley simply went for the weakest link.

JamesBond007 05-02-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StupidHoe (Post 5815230)
I think Lesley bullied Sam too, Sam was the quietest of the group and one of the prettiest and I think Lesley expected to be the 'hot one' but Saskia and Sam were prettier and more popular and Lesley delt with it by being nasty to them but Saskia was a bit more savvy than Sam so Lesley simply went for the weakest link.

Sam's other probelm is she didn't have a tight group as Lesley had (Craig and Vanessa). Maxwell and anthony were all over saskia at that time and she didn't want another girl stealing her limlight, so they dumped her. So lesley could bitch and be backed up by those two. I think Sam was in the wrong BB, BB5 or 4 would have fitted her style perfectly.

Niamh. 05-02-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond007 (Post 5815240)
Sam's other probelm is she didn't have a tight group as Lesley had (Craig and Vanessa). Maxwell and anthony were all over saskia at that time and she didn't want another girl stealing her limlight, so they dumped her. So lesley could bitch and be backed up by those two. I think Sam was in the wrong BB, BB5 or 4 would have fitted her style perfectly.

Michelle wouldn't have been happy about that I don't think, more competition for her Chicken Stu :laugh:

Shaun 05-02-2013 12:46 PM

I genuinely can't think of Saskia or Maxwell without wretching.

Gstar 07-02-2013 05:50 PM

I loved Sam. I think she was intimidated by a lot of people in the house so she just didn't bother. Still don't understand why she got booed in week 2

JamesBond007 08-02-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Germyle (Post 5817952)
I loved Sam. I think she was intimidated by a lot of people in the house so she just didn't bother. Still don't understand why she got booed in week 2

I do agree 50% with with what you say but i aslo think she had attention of Anthony and Maxwell for the first week and felt she couldn't be bothered with the rest. Which did bite her on behind after the first week.

Her getting booed was probably teenage girls just jealous of a pretty girl.

I do think Sam was out of the 19 to mid 20's bracket of HM's in BB6 that just didn't live her life yet like some of the others. She wasn't a good people's person.

Omah 08-02-2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5815252)
I genuinely can't think of Saskia or Maxwell without wretching.

Yeah, they made me want to vomit, too ..... :yuk:

JamesBond007 08-02-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5818773)
Yeah, they made me want to vomit, too ..... :yuk:

I got to be honest i liked them both in the first two weeks. They were fun and Maxwell stuck it to Lesley in that rap song.


But until Lesley Eviction after they heard themselfs getting cheered and sam been booed (they turned there back on her after that). Then came the change into believing they won already and thinking they were unbeatable. They swanned around the house believing they were it. Come Cidergate when Maoski owned Saskia and Saskia once up going all out for a bit of duvet action with Maxwell showed us how sad Saskia was.

Hearing the immortal line from Saskia "no one remembers you when you get voted out this early" cause she taught she wouldn't be a big star really made her eviction sweet.

Maxwell going over Science is the best Eviction (not including Sezers) BB ever had.

Yes they were Yuck but only after the second week

lostalex 08-02-2013 02:07 AM

BB7 was a train wreck. So many people in that cast should never have passed the psych tests, or been allowed on the show. Sam obviously was not prepared to be on that show, i think she saw BB5 and thought she'd just be embraced like transgendered Nadia was, but really she wasn't ready for that experience. Also Shabaz the gay indian guy should not have been on the show. I think BB went too far on BB7. Shabaz, Sam and Suzy were all horribly bullied on BB7.


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