Thoughts on Aisleyne
 

Oh my god, please tell me someone else HATES Aisleyne. I cannot stand her what is her deal with trying to be black!!!
:mad::mad:
She make me feel sick just watching her bum wobble around the house!!
GET HER OUT...
PLEEEEASE!!!:devil:

to be honest I am sick of seeing her bum

ive said this from day two of her going in the bb house, you either like some1 or u don't and she is very manipulative and coniving.. i do not think she has changed since going in the other house, she has just changed her game plan.. :devil:

I dont like her at all anymore, either. :mad:

I've had enough of her now to be honest.

i cant stand ashleen only 12 year olds talk like that! know yourself!! id knock her out if i was nikki

Hates a strong word for any housemate you don't know, but I dislike little Miss Fat Bottom.

I realy hope she leaves the house soon..... another week of her is to long!

I still like her she is a too big of charcter to get rid of yet, The likes of Mikey, Imogen, Susie must go first as they offer alot less.

Why she a big character? What has she given to the house that is worth while? Why is she interesting to watch? Why keep her?

Convince me why I shouldn't vote for her next time she is up.

I love her. Hope she wins

Aisleyne provokes a reaction whether that is love or hate. Mikey doesn't do much, Imogen is the same and Susie has only just started to be bossy etc. Aisleyne is one of the biggest characters as she has been on a journey into the secret house, she has had to deal with knowing the crowd want her out for a few weeks now. She is interesting to watch because she starts topics of debate where as Mikey and Imogen offer less topics because they are alot duller and sit in the background most of the time. The fact she stood up to Grace was huge when the others sat back. There are lots of reasons to keep Ash in just that Nikki fans seem to want her out asap according to many forums.

You can vote for who you want but if all the big characters go the final will consist of Imogen, Susie, Mikey, Jennie, all the fence sitters. The fact that half the country where Nikki fans so to speak and the rest Ash fans makes her a huge character in the house imo. Ok some people hated both of them or liked both of them aswell.

hate her
 

i absolutely hate her

Thanks for a great reply. It's nice to see a well thought out answer that makes you think on the site. And this is one of them.

I have to agree with you about Mikey, Imogen and Susie. All three are waste of house space. That is part of the reason I want to see the later two go in this weeks double eviction. And I hope none of them make it through to the final week. But knowing how the public vote we will end up with at least one of them, probably Mikey. And what a waste of a final place that would be.

Out of the remaining females in the house, at the moment, the best two left are Jennie and Aisleyne. Interestingly without the other two females both of these will be able to come out of there shells a bit and hopefully become more entertaining. Jennie will benefit most without the calming influence of Susie and be able let her hair down as will all the housemates. She feels that the older members of the house stop her having fun. I feel once she is more herself Aisleyne will shine to.

I thought that Aisleyne going into the other house didn't really do her any good as a housemate other than stopping her get her evicted earlier in the show. She came across as a queen bee exercising her power over her subjects. Telling the new housemates about the house as she saw it to influence her position in the main house. When she came out and she found Jayne in the new house I think she found wasn't as powerful as she thought and she went downhill. I also feel, once again Susie and her constant tea making hasn't helped her find her feet in the house since she got back.

On the plus side, she has been generally loyal to the housemates she put in with the exception of Jayne and she did show promise early in the show when she wasn't afraid to stand up to people. What I want to see from her is some of that old backbone so she can rise above the mob outside and by her actions in the house prove she can be the strong person that entered the house on day 1.

She could win the show, but at the moment she doesn't show the qualities required.

We could do with a strong winner this year for the shows sake. I'm afraid to say the current odds on favourite doesn't show those qualities either. It could be another disappointing winner for another year.

I actually think Jennie is not a big character at all compared to Ash, dont get me wrong she has a fab personality but she is just 18 and coming in at a very late stage she has no chance of winning imo. For me voting out Ash would be a disaster because she is the main female role. I know people say that Susie is the mum figure but I think Ash also does that quite well. The way she can calm down situations and takes control like in the secret prison thing makes ash stand out even more.

I think the calming influence of Susie is very much needed in the house although when she does go which will probably be next week the house will turn very bitchy again I expect.

With the first secret house I think she was just letting them know her thoughts and I think any other housemate in that same situation would of done the same, told the housemates how he or she feels and as they have watches surely there would be no point hiding anything from them? She had nothing to gain really and the housemates made up their own minds anyway, and that was what she kept saying over and over.

Now hearing the awful crowd reaction that is what has changed her into being nicey nice all the time and I think that just shows she feels guilty about things she has done, where as Graceless didn't change a single thing or even realise she has been acting wrong this is once again where Ash is old enough to realise and changes herself because of this. I don't see that as being two characters at all, she just realises that she has maybe behaved wrongly and changed herself into her better side. I think that is a smart move rather than something that should be knocked. Also Susies influences around the time Ash has been upset/down have been crucial to make her re think and re analyise her situations and even her housemates who she thought liked her.

I don't think you, me or any other watcher can comment on how she reacts when hearing the crowd. Grace was a hard cookie but they brought her to tears many times and Grace was totally vicious cow and Ash is not. The fact that she has had to deal with the roars of the crowd and not walked makes her a very worthy winner in my eyes, the only housemates I would accept winning over her would be Richard, or Pete. Ash deserves to make the final 3 without a doubt. Glyn can come 4th as the public seem blind to his whole act and find him funny. If Glyn wins that would be the worst outcome and make this twisty turny bb be like cameron winning all over again.

Who do you think is a deserving winner then?

oh dont let mr im obsesed with wales win! he annoys the **** out of me he is young and stupid and i dnt see the funny side of him

Lol Glitter I agree :thumbs:

Ashleyne to win Big brother 7!

Why?

In reply to GlitterEyes... others please feel free to join in

I agree Jennie isn't as big as character as Ash, but then again I don't think we have seen much of her fun side and her age is against her in the character stakes. However, she does come across as a mature 18 which seems unusual compared to the 18 year olds we have had in the past shows. I still want to see her fun side, where she not worried about having someone as possibly as old as her mother in the house, i.e. Susie, who will tell her off. Although Jennie can't win, a place in the final four would be a good result for her and the show. I just hope when she comes out the house that she is over exploited by the press as that could be a big disaster for her at such a young age and cause problems in later life.

We are going to have to agree to disagree about Susie in the house. I agree very much with Foebane100 when he said "She is a lazy spoiled princess." and that she is "selfish". The only thing I would add to this is that she is controlling, manipulative and considers herself superior to the other housemates. In entertainment terms that calming influence has been a disaster to the show and stopped some of the housemates from showing all their character traits. For example, it's going to be interesting to see how Ash takes on being the top female role once Susie leaves leaves the house. Will she repeat what she did in the other house or will she do things differently. What are the young ones like without a mother figure in the house.

Susie leaving is no loss to the house. She is expendable. And her departure could kick start the show.

The thing with Ash and the crowd that gets me is that I felt early on she didn't need the love of the people outside the house. I always had the view she was a strong and knew who she was and loved herself to make it without the acceptance of the outside world. She seemed a complete person. I guess I was wrong about her or that being in the house can do strange things to you. I think changing so much for the crowd was a weakness on her part. Yes, modify your behavior but don't change completely. She didn't need to do that to the degree she did. Yes changing was as you say a smart move, but she went to far. Without Susie, however, I'm hoping she will arrive at a good compromise.

Your final question is the hardest to answer:

I don't think there really is a deserving winner as such in the house this year, but then again I don't think we have had a deserving winner for quite a while. The producers are not after deserving winners they are more after characters that will do something the house and make the show interesting. And there lies part of the problem of the show, the public vote out the characters and we are left will the dull and boring in the final week. A classic example of that was last year when Anthony won the show. A Mr Nobody who even after the show remained a Mr Noboby.

Ash wouldn't be a bad winner in that she has brought something constantly to the house. Unlike the favorite, Pete who has died away as the show has gone on. At the start of the show I would have gone for Pete. But now I not sure who to back. Like you the other housemate that comes to mind is Richard, much for the same reason as Ash, he has constantly brought something to the house week on week. As for the others, I would like to see Jennie or Glyn in the final four.

I would love know other views on this subject. I'm rather boared with x to win stuff without reasons why x should win.

I dont think I liked Ash when she went into the house. She seemed a little bit overbearing and too into herself for my liking. When she went into the house next door I liked her even less. She seemed to relish in being the one who came over from the other house and almost ruled the place. People expected her to make the decisions and she delighted in this role. Then something changed on the final night when she had to pick the housemates to be "evicted". I'm not sure if it was put on... I doubt it as it really seemed genuine and you could see the agony she was facing... but a softer side to her came out. This has continued with her now she back in the main house. She has become much more compassionate and is very sensitive to peoples emotions and feelings. I would really like to see a little of the hard nut we saw in the beginning but not so much to go back to her old ways. Another aspect on why I'm warming to her is they way she is handling the Spiral situation. They were firm friends until he started to become a pest and constantly lusted openly after her. I find this so disrespectful and she dealing with this in a mature and adult way.

She has every right to be worried about the chanting that she heard.... I dont think she deserves to be booed at all. She has in her own way given us loads of amusement and you cant deny that wether you love her or hate her.

As far as Susie, Mikey and Imagen are concerned...... Susie has brought a calming influence yes..... but what else has she done? She constantly obsesses about food, hordes too much stuff unnecessarily she believes that she is superior to the other housemates and reminds them that her live is very much different to being in the house. She got my back up on the first night when i found out that she had failed in the audition process and then bought her way into the house. The whole point of BB is to place random people and see how the mishmash of characters get on....... so how is someone who has paid however many thousands of pounds to gain access to the house allowed to enter???

Imogen..... what does she do? I cant remember a single event concerning her where I have thought she deserves to be in the final..... she is a fence sitter and someone who sits under the radar hoping not to be noticed.

Its the same for Mikey really. he's had a few more funny moments but once again, nothing springs to mind.

As for who I want or think should win...... like Red.... its a hard one. Nobody stands out. I thought that Pete would be a deserving winner but now I'm not so sure. He's lost his spark.... maybe its because some of his friends have gone and he has nobody to bounce off and connect with. He might be the sort of person who needs simulation to bring out the mad funny character that we've seen before.

I'm warming to Glyn..... he came into the house a shy boy from a small town in Wales. He seemed to have lead a sort of sheltered life. he's a completely different person now.... in a good way. He seems to have grown up and found the person who he is. He's been on a journey and has had some funny moments.

I cant answer the question of who I want to win..... all I can offer is who I dont want to win...... Susie, Mikey or Imogen. I dont think Jennie will win thought I hope she gets farther than the three I just mentioned.

To Red:-
Who has Susie manipulated?

On the Ash change thing I don't think she could win either way, if she stayed saying what he actually thought people would of hated her more, so she looked at herself and changed the parts which she saw bad in herself. yes it took the crowds reaction in order for her to do this but she changed into the right direction. The public have a huge influence on the show and the way she has heard boos and chants every week is bound to change anyone...not just her. I think alot of us like to think of ourselves as strong people inside and out but when put into a situation you have never ever been in before you will start to see the cracks in yourself and you will sometimes over analyise situations. I think Ash needs to now forget the crowd and concentrate on having a good time and try her hardest not to let the crowd effect who she is.

It is very unfair that the crowd has such an influence on 1 person, Ash wasnt even up this week but the crowd still chanted get ash out which was uncalled for because she hasn't done anything wrong. I just dislike how bb fans presume that Ash is hated by what just 200 eviction friday night fans think as I think Ash is really liked apart from some Nikki fans who seem to hold a grudge and not being able to let that go which is a shame. Although I dislike all the boo's and chants I think in the long run it will do Ash a favour and make her a stronger person.

Hmm picking a worthy or deserving winner is hard. I think Rich, Ash, and Pete are the only worthy winners because each have a story and have been very up and down. Pete has faded a little but he remains a nice genuine guy and he has made alot of people take note of Torretts awareness which is why he went in. I actually think Pete would do better coming second and not being so much in the limelight. It is very predictable if Pete did won and Im sure we would see plenty of "its a fix" threads but I think the guy is pleasent and great to watch.

I think Ash is a deserving winner because she has offered so soo much debate, love her or hate her we all know who Aisleyne is and she is one of the main characters we have talked about. When I first saw her come out of the box thing I thought oh another blonde bimbo model but she started to grow on me each day and is alot more to her that the blonde bimbo stereotype. Standing up to Grace took balls and that is when I think she gained alot of fans. The fact she hasn't walked out after hearing so many boos aswell shows how strong she is. Yes she has cried but so did Grace and she was another strong character.

Richard I think deserves to win more than anyone else because he is another amazing character, he is very quick whitted and funny. His humour took a while for people to fully understand but people are now seeing he does his jokes in a fun harmless way. He gets alot of stick for the Shahbaz situation but that was not just down to him alot of current and ex housemates played their parts in that but it seems he is the only one who gets the blame.

He has stayed true to himself since day 1 aswell as always saying what he thought on housemates. To me he seems the underdog on all the spin off shows and they are so against him but he grows on people. He is always quick to pick up on change, whether that be a housemates character changing like Ash or when someone is down. All housemates at some point have gone to him for some sane advice even Lisa when she was up for nomination and she hated him. Alot of what he says I find myself agreeing with 100% and he talks alot of sense. Back in the day of the plastics when they were in full force, he was the one who got to know Sam and Ash and didn't judge them on what others thought or the way they looked, the same with Susie when she come in and then all the other newbies. Some characters are ffunny in bb but with Dickie I actually laugh out loud at his one liners and catty comments, most housemates take them and even fire some back which is all light hearted fun but yes sometimes he can go close to the bone. I don't defend some things that he has done which have been wrong but his good entertaining points more than make up for his bad points. He is a legend in my eyes anyway.


To Kiz:-
I also agree she handled Spiral well and no matter what a female wears he has no right to judge her on that, neither had Mikey when he bit her butt. I think Susie handled the food situation well, if she didn't hide the food they would of had none and would of all been moaning. It needed someone to take charge in my opinion, maybe she should of told them about it so it seemed less controlling but if she did that they would of just helped themselved surely? How does she think she is superior? yes she is from a totally different style of life but I have never thought she thinks she is better than anyone of them...different yes...but not better. The golden ticket thing could of been the person who challenged Pete well that was what I was expecting but then we got Susie, nice enough lady but not winners potential. The selection process should be down to bb not Susie, if she got the ticket for 4 grand on ebay then good on her. Who knows maybe hubby also bribed the producers to get some peace watching the world cup lol.

Imogen totally agree she is boring and lacks spark same as Mikey. Totally disgree on Glyn though, I cannot stand the boy. But better not to get me started on him otherwise I could be here all night long. I just think Glyn puts on a show and is fake, he plays the dimwit but he is actually a very smart lad.


Need a good drink after all that typing lol.

hate her
 

i hate aisleyne she isnt a genuine person and thinks way to highly of herself ! she thinks she knows everything about everyone and cause she is older than some of them that she knows what to do on each task ! and the other day when she said "Why is it that when i have a idea no one listens or even thinks about it" well dumbo its cause no one likes you !
so please get her out please please please xx

I agree that the food situation could have been handled better. Something needed to be done to conserve what was left but I just think she did it in the wrong way. Maybe your right that if she told them they would have started pilfering. When Nikki hid a beer everyone jumped on her.... when susie did it.... not much was said really.

On the superior question, there has been many comments about how different her life is..... she wont drink the wine because its too cheap, when Glyn was being sick, which was disgusting IMO, she was treating him like a baby, when all the lad needed was a bloke to look after him and make sure he didnt get any worse. It just the way she talks to people. I guess its something that I picked up on and maybe I seeing into thing a little more then i should.

I dont agree that a place in BB was bought on ebay. This makes a mockery of all those poor sods who went through hours and hours of the selection process. I know Susie did this but...... she still managed to "bribe" her way in.

On the Glyn side, one day I like him, the next i find him a bore. He's that sort of character. And after reading your post, maybe because it is that he's faking to fit in.... I do think that he's become a better person since entering the house. But still not sure if I want him to win.

Your comments on Richard were spot on. I've never really disliked him.... he brings balance to most situations and calm down aggressive behavior. The only bad light i have seen him in is when he had that massive argument with Lisa. He didnt show himself in a nice light then.... but we can all be a little like that cant we...... even the nicest of people snap sometimes!

Few... right... didnt think that my brain would manage that..... its too early and I was had a late night!

I'm off home today (booooooo)... and dont have my internet up and running.... flipping BT!!!!! So wont be able to respond but I'm sure Red will fill me in with the debate.......:spin2:

she wont go! coz no1 is nominating her!!! she licks every1's asses!!

Aisleyne is very sly
she knows what shes doing
she has changed so much since re-entering thhe house
if anyone says the slightest thing to her she turns on the water works and its working so far :thumbs:
how long till people nd housemates notice this???
get her out next!