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arista 14-03-2013 11:10 AM

How Labour Party planted a diehard supporter in the BBC audience
 
"The Question Time stooge: How Labour Party
planted a diehard supporter in the BBC audience
to attack UKIP panellist on debate show
Labour activist Amy Rutland, 23, attacked
UKIP candidate on Question Time
Politics graduate called UKIP Eastleigh
candidate Diane James
'disgusting' Accusations she was
'Labour Party plant' deliberately given airtime by BBC
BBC received dozens of complaints from
"


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What a Stink

joeysteele 14-03-2013 11:15 AM

That will make up for all the likely usual plants in the audience by the Conservatives and Lib Dems too then.

Jesus. 14-03-2013 11:17 AM

I haven't read the story. Is there evidence that she was actually planted by the party?

arista 14-03-2013 11:22 AM

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[Right to reply: Question Time presenter
David Dimbleby, demanded UKIP Diane James to
answer Miss Rutland's allegation that she was 'disgusting']

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[Campaigning: The politics graduate is pictured,
far right, at the Eastleigh by-election vote count]

Jesus. 14-03-2013 11:25 AM

Is she a labour supporter who applied, or was she pushed on to the programme by the party?

Shaun 14-03-2013 11:36 AM

Not really sure what the big fuss is about. Other parties are free to do the same (if this indeed even happened) :shrug: At least she's passionate about politics.

AnnieK 14-03-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5887999)
Not really sure what the big fuss is about. Other parties are free to do the same (if this indeed even happened) :shrug: At least she's passionate about politics.

This ^

the truth 14-03-2013 12:56 PM

she was an idiot, tried to call uki[p racist and disgusting , when they simply have a right to state they want more controlled immigration

joeysteele 14-03-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5887999)
Not really sure what the big fuss is about. Other parties are free to do the same (if this indeed even happened) :shrug: At least she's passionate about politics.

Absolutely and I bet the others do too.

arista 14-03-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5888161)
Absolutely and I bet the others do too.


I do not.



Labour are Cheats

lostalex 14-03-2013 03:06 PM

certainly she has just as much of a right to ask questions on Question Time as anyone else. I don't see the problem. :shrug:

If the Producers specifically choose her as part of some larger Labour conspiracy with the BBC, then that would be a problem, but i don't think that is the case here.

joeysteele 14-03-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5888247)
I do not.



Labour are Cheats


They all are to a degree in truth but none worse currently than the Lib Dems.

joeysteele 14-03-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5888258)
certainly she has just as much of a right to ask questions on Question Time as anyone else. I don't see the problem. :shrug:

If the Producers specifically choose her as part of some larger Labour conspiracy with the BBC, then that would be a problem, but i don't think that is the case here.

This programme, Question Time has over the last 2 to 3 years really gone down both as to really learning anything or in entertainment value.

Very often someone asking a question from the audience,asks a perfectly
good question and also makes a good point but it either gets dismissed or the panel sidestep it altogether and make political speeches almost.

David Dimbleby is supposed to be the chairman, I am near sure some weeks he actually, rather than just chairing the programme, asks more questions than the audience does.
Often unrelated to the original questions raised too.

I still watch it but do feel it has lost its credibilty so much that I cannot take it that seriously anymore.

Livia 14-03-2013 03:34 PM

To be fair, anyone can be an activist. She isn't paid by the party and there is no evidence that the BBC "planted" her in the audience as a favour to Labour. If there is evidence, it would be such a hot potato news-wise that I think we'd probably know about it by now. And she was a counting agent at the Eastleigh by-election... So what? As long as you're nominated by the candidate or their agent beforehand, anyone can be a counting agent. It's really... reeeeeeally boring.

I'm no fan of Labour but this really is something being made out of nothing.

Scarlett. 14-03-2013 03:40 PM

It's question time, surely someone who asks difficult questions is a good thing.

arista 14-03-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 5888323)
It's question time, surely someone who asks difficult questions is a good thing.

Yes it is a Good Thing


But not if its a Question set up by Labour.
If the are workers for the party
David should say that
then its all more clear.

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Livia 14-03-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5888346)
Yes it is a Good Thing


But not if its a Question set up by Labour.
If the are workers for the party
David should say that
then its all more clear.

So, if someone's ever delivered a leaflet for a party, or put a poster in their window, or been a polling station teller... it should be announced on Question Time if they want to ask a question? If she was someone's political assistant, researcher, press officer or something then I could understand your annoyance. But she's an activist.

joeysteele 14-03-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5888308)
To be fair, anyone can be an activist. She isn't paid by the party and there is no evidence that the BBC "planted" her in the audience as a favour to Labour. If there is evidence, it would be such a hot potato news-wise that I think we'd probably know about it by now. And she was a counting agent at the Eastleigh by-election... So what? As long as you're nominated by the candidate or their agent beforehand, anyone can be a counting agent. It's really... reeeeeeally boring.

I'm no fan of Labour but this really is something being made out of nothing.

I think you are amazing Livia, very well said.

lostalex 15-03-2013 12:25 AM

I think she asked a question, and asked it in a way that reflected how MANY british people feel about UKIP. I don't think she asked anything unreasonable.

I think MANY british people are against what they perceive to be a racist and fundamentalist and nationalist party. I think this young woman was chosen to ask her question because it was relevant to the discussion.

I don't think there is any conspiracy.

lostalex 15-03-2013 12:29 AM

Remember when the guy from BNP was on? lol.

Kizzy 15-03-2013 12:49 AM

To be fair you are not going to want to appear on QT and ask a question if you have NO interest in politics are you?
And by 23 it's not surprising she has a clear idea of who she is supporting.

MTVN 15-03-2013 12:59 AM

Probably the annoying sort of person who tries to direct any conversation at all to give herself an opportunity to show how political she is

Anyway, my baseless, preconceived judgement aside, this doesn't seem like that big a deal to me

joeysteele 15-03-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5889265)
To be fair you are not going to want to appear on QT and ask a question if you have NO interest in politics are you?
And by 23 it's not surprising she has a clear idea of who she is supporting.

Exactly, it is also pretty clear to me at times who is from what party too when they ask the question or comment too.
As I said in my response to arista at the start, if she was planted then I am also sure it will have been done and will still be being done all the time by all the Parties, not just Labour.
So pretty unfair to just single Labour out for criticism as to this anyway.

Kizzy 15-03-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5889279)
Probably the annoying sort of person who tries to direct any conversation at all to give herself an opportunity to show how political she is

Anyway, my baseless, preconceived judgement aside, this doesn't seem like that big a deal to me

I don't think it is in any way annoying I think it's excellent that a young woman cares enough about her country to air her views, whatever party they are from.
And I'm surprised that it annoys you so much MTVN, you seem to have a grasp of the importance of seeing the wood for the trees in issues.


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