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arista 09-05-2013 04:11 PM

Nick Clegg is trying to stop the new child minder idea
 
He started it on his LBC Radio show.

(BBC Radio 5 - never says LBC
as they are getting more from radio5
tunning into LBC since Clegg has a show on it)


Video
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/v...-reforms-video



Clegg should be advised before going Live

Mystic Mock 09-05-2013 08:11 PM

What is this new child minder law about?

joeysteele 09-05-2013 08:13 PM

I expect to see the Lib Dems getting more vocal and not on board for a good few policies coming up over the next year or so now.

He is actually making David Cameron look rather foolish with this policy, presenting things as if he himself has been sort of excluded from the full plans of this by the Conservative side of the coalition.

lostalex 09-05-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5984537)
I expect to see the Lib Dems getting more vocal and not on board for a good few policies coming up over the next year or so now.

He is actually making David Cameron look rather foolish with this policy, presenting things as if he himself has been sort of excluded from the full plans of this by the Conservative side of the coalition.

So you think he is just positioning himself to make a coalition with Labour? You think he wants to start vocally opposing the conservatives and begin siding with labor now, so that he will have a more influential position when he forms a new coalition with Miliband and the Labour party?

That sounds awfully cynical and manipulative to me. I don't know if i like that. If you were Labour would you trust him? or would you just be grateful that he wants to be on your side? The Lib Dems really are the King Makers now arn't they. The smallest party of the main 3 is really able to call the shots now. They can decide who gets the coalition majority, which means they hold more cards than the 2 more powerful parties.

It doesn't really seem fair, does it?

Vicky. 09-05-2013 08:55 PM

Child minder idea?

joeysteele 09-05-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5984628)
So you think he is just positioning himself to make a coalition with Labour? You think he wants to start vocally opposing the conservatives and begin siding with labor now, so that he will have a more influential position when he forms a new coalition with Miliband and the Labour party?

That sounds awfully cynical and manipulative to me. I don't know if i like that. If you were Labour would you trust him? or would you just be grateful that he wants to be on your side? The Lib Dems really are the King Makers now arn't they. The smallest party of the main 3 is really able to call the shots now. They can decide who gets the coalition majority, which means they hold more cards than the 2 more powerful parties.

It doesn't really seem fair, does it?

Yes, I think that and no you are right it isn't fair either but it is British politics unfortunately.

I have in fact come over to the Labour party side as to politics from a Conservative/Lib Dem supporter position myself and no I wouldn't trust Clegg or in fact near all the Lib Dem MPs at present.
They threw out all they stood for in the 2010 election after getting the votes to go into coalition with the Conservatives and get 5 years of shared power and a few miserable ministerial positions.
Nothing wrong with going into coalition with the Conservatives at all but what they gave up as to their policies and the heartless policies they have supported now is very wrong in my view.

Now they will adjust their position so they can easily join a coalition with Labour and likely then spend near 5 years voting to get rid of much of what they supported fully with the Conservatives over the last 3 years.

The Lib Dems and Clegg in particular are political parasites in my view, latching on to anything and anyone that will get them a share of power, what they stand for meaning little to achieve that.
Nick Clegg will be gone after the next election, the Lib Dem vote will be well down and they will lose a large number of seats,Clegg will likely resign and clear off to a well paid position in Europe.

The road then clear for a Labour/Lib Dem coalition if Labour fail to get an overall majority.
I personally would never trust the Lib Dems now and I voted for them in 2010, I have always thought as this parliament neared the end of its 5 years in power that they would start to move well back from Conservative policy and that appears to be starting to happen.

I am just pleased the AV vote failed in 2011 now and after seeing the hypocrisy and loss of credibility and political integrity as to the Lib Dems I doubt I would support any pr vote in the future now.
As I said in answer to your question, I wouldn't want to be in the same room as Nick Clegg let alone share power with him.
I won't believe a word he says again.


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