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Omah 14-05-2013 02:00 AM

10 questions on grammar
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22512744

Can you punctuate better than the average child?

:idc:

I got 9/10.

GypsyGoth 14-05-2013 02:14 AM

7/10

Omah 14-05-2013 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 5991703)
7/10

:thumbs:

Was "gerund" a problem ..... :suspect:

lostalex 14-05-2013 03:25 AM

I got the first 3 wrong so I gave up. This is for British English anyway so it's probably racist against Americans.

Omah 14-05-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5991711)
I got the first 3 wrong so I gave up. This is for British English anyway so it's probably racist against Americans.

British English = Proper English ..... :pipe:

Ramsay 14-05-2013 04:05 AM

6/10
better than the thought lawl

Niall 14-05-2013 08:36 AM

6/10. But the point is that such tests on grammar are ridiculous anyway. As I was doing that quiz, those sentences which were wrong were perfectly understandable anyway. Linguistic change and the context of new generations in relation to grammar is that which causes these discrepancies. No-one is wrong, only different.

Shaun 14-05-2013 08:49 AM

The sibling one was ****ing ridiculous, and would never ever be said by anyone. :idc:

I got 8 correct, missing that and the last one.

Marcus. 14-05-2013 08:54 AM

2/10

0-3: Colon confusenik

Omah 14-05-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Niall (Post 5991830)
6/10. But the point is that such tests on grammar are ridiculous anyway. As I was doing that quiz, those sentences which were wrong were perfectly understandable anyway. Linguistic change and the context of new generations in relation to grammar is that which causes these discrepancies. No-one is wrong, only different.

So why is texting banned on this forum ..... :conf:

Surely, it's only linguistic change in the context of a new generation being different, causing discrepancies ..... :shrug:

Niamh. 14-05-2013 10:41 AM

I got 8/10 although I will admit a couple of those were lucky guesses :laugh:

Jords 14-05-2013 10:49 AM

3/10 oops

Niall 14-05-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5992012)
So why is texting banned on this forum ..... :conf:

Surely, it's only linguistic change in the context of a new generation being different, causing discrepancies ..... :shrug:

Using grammar in a non-standard way is different to the use of text speak (a dialect that developed out of convenience due to technological constraints). Just because someone uses a semi-colon in the wrong place, or splits an infinitive doesn't mean that the standard of grammar is getting worse.

It suggests to me that maybe the rules are becoming more archaic and are simply on the way out. I think we should be worrying more about the testing obsession that's become a part of our schooling system, rather than if a child knows whether to use 'may' or 'might' in a sentence. People will learn grammar eventually, we shouldn't worry about it so much.

Vanessa 14-05-2013 11:04 AM

I can't find the quiz. :(

Niamh. 14-05-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5992071)
I can't find the quiz. :(


Vanessa 14-05-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5992079)

Thanks, Niamh. :hugesmile:

Vanessa 14-05-2013 11:17 AM

6 out of 10. Not bad. :hugesmile:

Niamh. 14-05-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5992096)
6 out of 10. Not bad. :hugesmile:

It's really good considering English isn't even your first language

Vanessa 14-05-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5992104)
It's really good considering English isn't even your first language

That is why i struggled with this test. I would have got 10 out 10 if it was italian grammar. :hugesmile:

Omah 14-05-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niall (Post 5992065)
Using grammar in a non-standard way is different to the use of text speak (a dialect that developed out of convenience due to technological constraints). Just because someone uses a semi-colon in the wrong place, or splits an infinitive doesn't mean that the standard of grammar is getting worse.

It suggests to me that maybe the rules are becoming more archaic and are simply on the way out. I think we should be worrying more about the testing obsession that's become a part of our schooling system, rather than if a child knows whether to use 'may' or 'might' in a sentence. People will learn grammar eventually, we shouldn't worry about it so much.

The problem with your statement is that people DON'T "learn grammar eventually" and "the standard of grammar IS getting worse" - ask any employer ..... ;)

Once the rules are on the way out then what used to be a common language becomes, as it used to be, a myriad of dialects ..... :eek:

Kizzy 14-05-2013 11:29 AM

5 out of 10, You would have to have an English language degree to know half of those haha!

Omah 14-05-2013 11:33 AM

How to talk Yorkshire
 
A young man, waiting for his date is ushered into the sitting room to keep company with father who after eleven pints is semi-comatose. Desperate to impress, t'lad (cos that's how they speak in Yorkshire) tries to engage conversation by admiring the gleaming copper coal scuttle.

"That's a grand scuttle, Mr. Rodgers, for coal"

"Tha what son?"

"Ah said, for coal"

"Oh, ah thought tha said summat".

:laugh3:

Livia 14-05-2013 11:39 AM

8/10. I didn't get 3 and 8.

Kizzy 14-05-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5992126)
A young man, waiting for his date is ushered into the sitting room to keep company with father who after eleven pints is semi-comatose. Desperate to impress, t'lad (cos that's how they speak in Yorkshire) tries to engage conversation by admiring the gleaming copper coal scuttle.

"That's a grand scuttle, Mr. Rodgers, for coal"

"Tha what son?"

"Ah said, for coal"

"Oh, ah thought tha said summat".

:laugh3:

:laugh2:

Niall 14-05-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5992112)
The problem with your statement is that people DON'T "learn grammar eventually" and "the standard of grammar IS getting worse" - ask any employer ..... ;)

Once the rules are on the way out then what used to be a common language becomes, as it used to be, a myriad of dialects ..... :eek:

Yes because once people no longer have the collective understanding of the semi-colon, English will of course unravel and die out. :rolleyes:

This happens all the time, people worry about the language crumbling and tearing apart at the seems when it well.. isn't it. It's just change, not decay. Change does not mean standards are getting worse, they're just shifting.

300 years ago, there were two different types of 's' that had to be written depending on the word. Do you suppose that the loss of that grammatical rule is a sign of grammar standards worsening too?


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