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JohnnyBB 24-05-2013 01:22 PM

The Formats Changed According to Endemol this is not Just a twist..
 
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Big Brother is to return to Channel 5 in June with a series of format tweaks focussing the show around themes of suspicion and secrets.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...VLfumo.twitter

lostalex 24-05-2013 01:24 PM

Secret Story?


DigitalSid 24-05-2013 01:29 PM

Format tweaks for this series, nothing is set in stone, they may do a few secrets based series like France or they may just do the one and go back to normal.

DigitalSid 24-05-2013 01:30 PM

Full article

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Jack_ 24-05-2013 01:33 PM

No public vote plz

JohnnyBB 24-05-2013 01:38 PM

well that confirms celeb big bro then, main series ending in mid-August ahead of the celebrity series which finishes in mid-September.

Jordan. 24-05-2013 01:40 PM

Ffs I said this yesterday... This series is gonna feel like spin off of the main series cause everything will resolve around this twist :bored:

DigitalSid 24-05-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6014449)
Ffs I said this yesterday... This series is gonna feel like spin off of the main series cause everything will resolve around this twist :bored:

It really won't. If it follows other secret centred versions, each housemate will have one secret, and there will be a reward for everyone to uncover those of the others. That might be enough to dominate a week or two or one night a week throughout, but it's not enough to dominate 70 hours of programming (not including LF, BOTS).

lostalex 24-05-2013 01:51 PM

BBUSA did a season where every housemate had a secret partner, i think it was season 6. it actually worked pretty well. I liked it.

BBDodge 24-05-2013 02:02 PM

Gimmick.

lostalex 24-05-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BBDodge (Post 6014496)
Gimmick.

big brother itself is a gimmick. watching people in a house is a gimmick in and of itself.

Josy 24-05-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6014440)
No public vote plz

That would completely defeat the purpose of the whole show, why would people even bother watching if they couldn't vote for their favourite housemates.

Eh who goes/stays? Who cares you wont be deciding anyway hahahaha.

Jack_ 24-05-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6014538)
That would completely defeat the purpose of the whole show, why would people even bother watching if they couldn't vote for their favourite housemates.

Eh who goes/stays? Who cares you wont be deciding anyway hahahaha.

You don't have to be able to have an influence to want to watch the show...BBUS has survived as long as our show has without one.

The public make crap decisions anyway, let the housemates decide for themselves...if they're changing the format to include secrets and lies may as well just make it a game completely, I'd be up for that as a trial for one series.

Niamh. 24-05-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6014538)
That would completely defeat the purpose of the whole show, why would people even bother watching if they couldn't vote for their favourite housemates.

Eh who goes/stays? Who cares you wont be deciding anyway hahahaha.

:laugh2:

True though

Jack_ 24-05-2013 02:27 PM

Y'all need to watch BBUS or CAN, I felt the same until I actually gave it a try, it's far superior.

Josy 24-05-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6014546)
You don't have to be able to have an influence to want to watch the show...BBUS has survived as long as our show has without one.

The public make crap decisions anyway, let the housemates decide for themselves...if they're changing the format to include secrets and lies may as well just make it a game completely, I'd be up for that as a trial for one series.

This is BB UK not US.

The public have always had an influence here since the show began Jack, that was the whole appeal of it along with the social experiment aspect of it.

And thats only your opinion that the public make crap decisions anyway, it's the same old debate every year along with what makes an entertaining house mate, it's all down to individual preference, people vote to save who they like and thats that really just because you disagree with them doesnt mean it's a crap decision.

And if they change the game completely then it's not BB any more.

mkbb 24-05-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6014551)
Y'all need to watch BBUS or CAN, I felt the same until I actually gave it a try, it's far superior.

With the lack of live feed I would trust the housemates to make a more informed decision on who to evict compared to the public.

DigitalSid 24-05-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6014551)
Y'all need to watch BBUS or CAN, I felt the same until I actually gave it a try, it's far superior.

It's really not. It's not as bad as some on here like to make out, but give me BBUK over it any day. Out of the several times I've given it a try (every other year since it started pretty much) only twice have I not got bored after the first three weeks. I hope to try and watch all the English language ones this year (still haven't caught up on the most recent BBAU or first BBCAN), but if it gets too much (as it did last year), BBUS will probably be the first one I drop.

arista 24-05-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6014551)
Y'all need to watch BBUS or CAN, I felt the same until I actually gave it a try, it's far superior.


Feck Me


You have Gone yank

lostalex 24-05-2013 02:47 PM

I LOVE BB US, but i also love BB Uk, and i don;t want BBUK to change. I like having 2 totally different BB's to watch, and i love them both.

They really are 2 totally different shows.

BBUS is a pure strategic and intellectual game, only 3 episodes a week, and the competitions are cut throat for power and survival.

BBUK is a purely social game, an hour every single day, and the tasks are just for fun and food, there is no real power or influence to be won from them.


The 2 shows are completely different, but they are both good.

Jack_ 24-05-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6014554)
This is BB UK not US.

The public have always had an influence here since the show began Jack, that was the whole appeal of it along with the social experiment aspect of it.

And thats only your opinion that the public make crap decisions anyway, it's the same old debate every year along with what makes an entertaining house mate, it's all down to individual preference, people vote to save who they like and thats that really just because you disagree with them doesnt mean it's a crap decision.

And if they change the game completely then it's not BB any more.

And? Formats can change over time, just because it's a programme made in the UK it doesn't mean it always has to keep the format it began with. It if changed format it'd still be BBUK, just BBUK with a different format from the original.

Well if it makes the series less interesting and gives us all less to talk about on forums, spin-off shows, social media and in school and work, and then increases viewer apathy, and ratings decline as a result - then that is a crap decision. I've never understood voters going out of their way to make a show less interesting, especially hardcore fans...you're damaging the brand.

The last bit just isn't true either. The fundamental element of Big Brother is locking a bunch of people up in a house and filming them 24/7, what happens aside from that varies from country to country and version to version. But as long as they are living in a house and being filmed 24/7, it's Big Brother. Just because there's no public vote in the US it doesn't mean it's not Big Brother. It is, just a different format within it.


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Originally Posted by mkbb (Post 6014561)
With the lack of live feed I would trust the housemates to make a more informed decision on who to evict compared to the public.

Exactly. And IMO, it requires a lot more skill to appease your fellow housemates enough to keep you than it does to appease the public.

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 6014567)
Feck Me


You have Gone yank

Watch it arista. I said the same for years unfairly without giving it a try and I regret that, now I have and I'm converted. Our format has become stale (hence why they're clearly tweaking it a bit), I'd definitely be up for giving the US format a trial run. I'd like to see British people trying to play that game.

I'm not saying I dislike the UK format, I don't...I've watched it for seven years, but I think trialling the US format would be worth a go.

DigitalSid 24-05-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6014594)
Watch it arista. I said the same for years unfairly without giving it a try and I regret that, now I have and I'm converted. Our format has become stale (hence why they're clearly tweaking it a bit), I'd definitely be up for giving the US format a trial run. I'd like to see British people trying to play that game.

I'm not saying I dislike the UK format, I don't...I've watched it for seven years, but I think trialling the US format would be worth a go.

The US format would never work in the UK, if anyone so much as farts over here they're accused of playing a game (on a gameshow) and evicted as if that's a bad thing.

zakman440 24-05-2013 03:10 PM

I won't mind if they have changed it back to how it used to be on C4 or like BBAU but with a Vote To Evict/Save combo.

Jack_ 24-05-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalSid (Post 6014608)
The US format would never work in the UK, if anyone so much as farts over here they're accused of playing a game (on a gameshow) and evicted as if that's a bad thing.

It wouldn't work at present because there's never really been any show/game without a public vote (I think there was a Survivor UK but I'm not sure of anything else) and that's strictly a game, the public aren't used to it. But that's not an excuse to not try it, you have to start somewhere with everything...

And I know that, but the housemates would have to adapt to the format.


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