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Microsoft finally tell us about Xbox One DRM. It's as bad as you think it is.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

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With our modern architecture, Xbox One games will load more quickly, will be always accessible from the cloud, and there is no physical limit to the size or scope of the content provided.

Here are our platform policies and capabilities for game licensing – all of which will be made available when Xbox One launches later this year:

•Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.

•Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

•Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

•Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

•Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

•Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.

As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons.

In the months ahead, we will continue to listen to your feedback as we meet with our partners in the ecosystem to bring additional detail about our policies.

We are excited about this new generation of games and entertainment and look forward to sharing more news with our fans.

The jist:

24 hour check-in required. If you bring a game to play at your friend's house, 1 hour check-in is required.

You may give a game to someone who has been on your friends list 30 days. You transfer your rights to them. After this transfer, the game may not be transferred again.

Games can only be traded in at participating retailers, and publishers can choose to not participate. This basically means used games on Amazon, ebay and smaller pawn shops will no longer be available.

No renting. No loaning (unless you are present with the game). No private sales.

The money is in your hands Sony, don't follow suit and you'll be flying.

What a load of piss :laugh2:
I am convinced whoever came up with all this is a Sony spy

Desperately hoping Sony don't follow suit. Shame no more eBay sales. :(

Microsoft really are a shambles altogether

Who is signing off on these decisions? I've seen 5 year olds with better business sense.

'Anyone can play your games - your entire family have access to your console regardless of whether you are logged in or not! :amazed:'

Why the hell are they being such bastards? Why would anyone even want that. :bored:

The Xbox has always been about getting away from family and girlfriends - that sh*t is for the Wii at Christmas. This so transparent it's unbelievable. Putting a stop to online or personal sales amongst gamers, so more people 'buy it of Sony' instead, absolute moronic ****wits if they think anyone is going to buy into this bull****.

You have to log in once every 24 hours if you want to play games? **** youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Microsoft.

what if your internet goes down for a while? what about power cuts? just... senseless.

Indeed, there's been times before where I've lost internet for a week, and the only thing that stopped me from dying of boredom was being able to play video games. It's just... who at Microsoft thought this was a good idea?

I still dont get this every 24 hours thing, what happens if you dont log on?

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 6039249)

I still dont get this every 24 hours thing, what happens if you dont log on?

It locks you out of games, basically.

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6039257)

It locks you out of games, basically.

**** off, really?

That's insane....what about when you go on holiday...or a weekend session...****ing tits up for the xbone.

You really have to turn it on and sign in everyday then?

Jesus. I've gone weeks without being able to turn my PS3 on due to Uni/Work.

What point does the 24 hour sign in have? like HOW DOES IT BENEFIT ANYTHING? its just so stupid

I'm starting to think this is all a joke and that they'll reveal the real Xbox One at E3. There's no way that ANYONE would make this many bad design decisions.

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6039284)

I'm starting to think this is all a joke and that they'll reveal the real Xbox One at E3. There's no way that ANYONE would make this many bad design decisions.

Microsoft have lost their way since Bill Gates left imo

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6039284)

I'm starting to think this is all a joke and that they'll reveal the real Xbox One at E3.

Hahaha i was saying this to my brother earlier
The maker of this system has to be a sony spy..has to be!

The good thing about it is being able to access your games in the cloud via any Xbox, but then again, how many times will that feature ever actually be used?

I can't wait to see this pathetic product flop harder than a magikarp. I mean seriously, you'd think Microsoft would learn about the horrors of things like always-on DRM from the Sim City saga a couple months ago...

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6039284)

I'm starting to think this is all a joke and that they'll reveal the real Xbox One at E3. There's no way that ANYONE would make this many bad design decisions.

Well we are talking about the company behind such brilliant products like Windows Mobile 6.5, Windows ME, Windows Vista, Microsoft Bob.

I wouldn't it it past them to utterly **** something up.

LMAO at this next gen shiit. Did they lean nothing from their windows 8 flop? Trying to force consumers hands is suicide. I guess gaming is over for us old dogs. Time to step aside. I am not buying a game, and have them dictate, what I can, or cant do with it. Hopefully, theyre still making PS3 games, cause thats all I got!

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6039278)

What point does the 24 hour sign in have? like HOW DOES IT BENEFIT ANYTHING? its just so stupid

Piracy.

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6039292)

Hahaha i was saying this to my brother earlier
The maker of this system has to be a sony spy..has to be!

Here's the funny thing....

Phil Harrison is Microsoft Vice President, but before that, he was Vice President of Sony Computer Entertainment.

Conspiracy?

So if you're playing on your friends Xbox, you have to check into the online ****e every hour, or you will be locked out of the games.

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6039762)

So if you're playing on your friends Xbox, you have to check into the online ****e every hour, or you will be locked out of the games.

Bingo!:thumbs:

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Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

This seems contrary to what we've been told. If games can only be played on an account that it is registered on and if you want to play the game on two gamer tags then you have to register on both then how can this statement be true? unless your family have to log in as you to access the game but it distinctly says you so dont have to log in. Its a bit confusing.

I dare MS to implement these proposal then watch as all their gaming customers cancel their subscriptions.