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Benjamin 15-06-2013 01:20 PM

Your views on the 'Peoples Muppet'
 
I know it's only been two days and it's hard to come to a proper valid opinion, but what are your views on him?

I just can't see it working, his acting is a bit too dramatic and unbelievable. I mean the fact he deliberated for a while over the new h/mates suitcases for a pizza, really? He would have been better just saying no straight away, again it didn't suit the ditzy, nice guy image he is meant to be portraying.

Vladimir 15-06-2013 01:22 PM

I love the twist, but they should've hired a better actor.

Lwize 15-06-2013 01:23 PM

I think it'll work out, though I would have preferred not using an actor.
BBUSA did this a few years a go with "America's Player", and it was fun.

GiRTh 15-06-2013 01:24 PM

The HM's are too savvy and dont think their suitcases have actually been shredded so its failing. The nomination twist might retrieve it but its not been a good start.

Marc 15-06-2013 01:25 PM

I really hate the twist, it's really really poor. I don't like him either so it doesn't work at all for me

oathbreaker 15-06-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 6066133)
I love the twist, but they should've hired a better actor.

This ^^
Think it would have worked better telling the guy just be himself but knowing he will be brutal he wont need to make friends or bond with people basically just be a total sociopath..:devil:

trouble with Mario in BB11 he knew a failure would mean eviction this guy doesn't have that worry and can play it a lot cooler. On the live feed last night he totally blended in yet when it was showtime out came the actor again.

psychtracker 15-06-2013 01:27 PM

he kinda works in a way, for me. because so many HMs have 'played' up to the cameras over the years! ..especially in the diary room..with noms. theres nothing 'new' about 'bad' acting.

Drew. 15-06-2013 01:28 PM

during the pizza/suitcase task last night his personality changed a bit too dramatically and quickly when deciding what to do, he needs to tone it down a bit.. but i dont mind him so far and there's still potential for him to cause a lot of drama so fingers crossed he does.

MTVN 15-06-2013 01:28 PM

His acting isn't bad really considering the environment he's in and the fact he has to keep it up literally 24/7, I'm not that keen on the twist though and look forward to it ending

Marc 15-06-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 6066164)
during the pizza/suitcase task last night his personality changed a bit too dramatically and quickly when deciding what to do, he needs to tone it down a bit.. but i dont mind him so far and there's still potential for him to cause a lot of drama so fingers crossed he does.

Terrible acting :pipe:

Josy 15-06-2013 01:31 PM

I'm liking it at the moment and I think he's doing pretty well with keeping the act up so far, I also think it's good the way we are getting a say on the things he does.

That said though I don't want them to take the piss with it and make it far too obvious too soon and I'm also wondering what the plan is to save him from next weeks nominations process.

Marcus. 15-06-2013 01:36 PM

he doning ok at mo

Jack_ 15-06-2013 01:44 PM

I really like it and I don't think people are giving him or the twist a fair chance.

I don't think people have really understood what last night was about either, although to be fair I was confused at first. Basically, Michael would have been called to the Diary Room earlier in the night (he was in there for a long time during the 5* live feed, the twins mentioned it) and told the results of the suitcase poll and what was going to happen. He was obviously in on the fact that the housemates would be watching him (as in Michael the actor knew that, but Michael the housemate has to pretend he doesn't), that was confirmed on the C5 website. So whilst the housemates think he doesn't know they were watching, he can show a different side to the Michael character, i.e. what he's like inside the Diary Room when he knows he doesn't have to pander or be nice to the others, making them question whether he's such a nice guy after all because they can see what he's like behind their backs. Now this of course was all part of the act, as I said Michael knew he was being watched but had to pretend he wasn't and so hammed it up and went on about how he didn't care about their suitcases and he already has a few people to nominate in mind so that they all think they've now seen what he's really like (when of course it's all part of the act, but they don't know that). That adds a whole other dimension and I really liked the way they did that, I thought they were going to reveal he was an actor at first but I was pleasantly surprised.

On the whole I think he's doing a decent job, the first night he overacted a bit but last night as I've already said I think the whole thing was done really well, he also seems to be fitting in with the others when he's not the focus either so that's a good thing.

I'm just glad they've tried something different, I'm impressed and really like the idea of us having polls to decide what he does, I just hope they up the ante a bit soon and make him nastier and sneakier. And I also hope it doesn't end any time soon either and I really don't understand why people want it to, IMO it should last at least a month but to be honest I'd rather it just lasted the entire series. It doesn't mean it has to take over the series, people are over exaggerating by saying that (I mean it hardly took over the highlights last night, most of the focus was on Sam and Jemima and Dexter and Sallie, he only had a little bit), and it's perfectly possible to balance him with other house action. You could have one or two decisions to make for him a week I reckon and that'd balance both sides of the show enough.

I also don't think it should end early because of how much they plugged this twist, it was the main 'secret' as part of the ad campaign and for them to end it after like a week as they usually do would just be sh*te and the same as always. And plus, contrast the housemates reactions if it would be revealed in a week to what it'd be like after 10 weeks. I just have this vision on finale night of them all sitting round and Big Brother showing them a VT of all the times across the series when they've said 'I think Michael's an actor' or questioned stuff about him, and then at the end of it they tag on the second creepy VT we got shown of him on the first launch night...that'd be MILES better than next week them going 'Michael you've been acting, your task is over, say goodbye'...YAWN.

So yeah, I like it and think people need to give it a chance to develop.

arista 15-06-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6066129)
I know it's only been two days and it's hard to come to a proper valid opinion, but what are your views on him?

I just can't see it working, his acting is a bit too dramatic and unbelievable. I mean the fact he deliberated for a while over the new h/mates suitcases for a pizza, really? He would have been better just saying no straight away, again it didn't suit the ditzy, nice guy image he is meant to be portraying.



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Marcus. 15-06-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6066217)
I really like it and I don't think people are giving him or the twist a fair chance.

I don't think people have really understood what last night was about either, although to be fair I was confused at first. Basically, Michael would have been called to the Diary Room earlier in the night (he was in there for a long time during the 5* live feed, the twins mentioned it) and told the results of the suitcase poll and what was going to happen. He was obviously in on the fact that the housemates would be watching him (as in Michael the actor knew that, but Michael the housemate has to pretend he doesn't), that was confirmed on the C5 website. So whilst the housemates think he doesn't know they were watching, he can show a different side to the Michael character, i.e. what he's like inside the Diary Room when he knows he doesn't have to pander or be nice to the others, making them question whether he's such a nice guy after all because they can see what he's like behind their backs. Now this of course was all part of the act, as I said Michael knew he was being watched but had to pretend he wasn't and so hammed it up and went on about how he didn't care about their suitcases and he already has a few people to nominate in mind so that they all think they've now seen what he's really like (when of course it's all part of the act, but they don't know that). That adds a whole other dimension and I really liked the way they did that, I thought they were going to reveal he was an actor at first but I was pleasantly surprised.

On the whole I think he's doing a decent job, the first night he overacted a bit but last night as I've already said I think the whole thing was done really well, he also seems to be fitting in with the others when he's not the focus either so that's a good thing.

I'm just glad they've tried something different, I'm impressed and really like the idea of us having polls to decide what he does, I just hope they up the ante a bit soon and make him nastier and sneakier. And I also hope it doesn't end any time soon either and I really don't understand why people want it to, IMO it should last at least a month but to be honest I'd rather it just lasted the entire series. It doesn't mean it has to take over the series, people are over exaggerating by saying that (I mean it hardly took over the highlights last night, most of the focus was on Sam and Jemima and Dexter and Sallie, he only had a little bit), and it's perfectly possible to balance him with other house action. You could have one or two decisions to make for him a week I reckon and that'd balance both sides of the show enough.

I also don't think it should end early because of how much they plugged this twist, it was the main 'secret' as part of the ad campaign and for them to end it after like a week as they usually do would just be sh*te and the same as always. And plus, contrast the housemates reactions if it would be revealed in a week to what it'd be like after 10 weeks. I just have this vision on finale night of them all sitting round and Big Brother showing them a VT of all the times across the series when they've said 'I think Michael's an actor' or questioned stuff about him, and then at the end of it they tag on the second creepy VT we got shown of him on the first launch night...that'd be MILES better than next week them going 'Michael you've been acting, your task is over, say goodbye'...YAWN.

So yeah, I like it and think people need to give it a chance to develop.

hear hear

YodaBB 15-06-2013 01:47 PM

I Like Him And The Twist.

Benjamin 15-06-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6066225)
Feck Me Ben - They all are,

We would need 24/7 viewing to know the truth

I mean when he has to do something. I just think the deliberation of whether to take the pizza was a bit unbelievable. Had it been money, even £1000, then maybe deliberation, but for a pizza?

C5 could make this really work, but they need to make it more believable.

R0B1S 15-06-2013 01:51 PM

He is ok I guess. I just don't understand one thing - why the hell they made him play a character? Why could not he just be himself? It would have been a lot easier for him and it would not seem so awkward and forced at times.

arista 15-06-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6066232)
I mean when he has to do something. I just think the deliberation of whether to take the pizza was a bit unbelievable. Had it been money, even £1000, then maybe deliberation, but for a pizza?

C5 could make this really work, but they need to make it more believable.


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Marcus. 15-06-2013 01:55 PM

maybe to up the challage

Cherie 15-06-2013 02:11 PM

He is Ok so far and he is can only be as good as what the producers give him, the shredding of the suitcases was just a joke, it would have been far more believable if they had to hand over a few treasured items from their suitcases, like make up, cigarettes etc.

Tom4784 15-06-2013 02:21 PM

It would have been a better twist if they got someone else to do it. Every time he's on screen I just roll my eyes and wonder how no one has sussed it out yet. The sooner this twist is over the better.

Marcus. 15-06-2013 02:22 PM

how long the twist is for

Visage 15-06-2013 02:28 PM

It's hard to judge him as an actor.

Are BB scripting him and asking to play this ditzy guy? (by that I mean in the diary room when he was told to keep his suitcase)

Are BB leaving him to ad-lib his way through the diary room scenes?

So is it the actor who isn't doing a convincing job, or is he a great actor by following BB's instructions to the letter..?

Visage 15-06-2013 02:29 PM

I would like to see more of the actor than the housemate he's playing to make a better judgement.


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