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waterhog 24-07-2013 07:44 AM

Sam interview with Callum - heart breaking or a sympathy vote ?
 
Sam interview with Callum - heart breaking or a sympathy vote ? 24.07.13

we don't see hardship,
the game is manipulation,
i can not get a grip,
depression has a creation.
Sam is a true gent,
trying to house mate bond,
unlike Dan he does not make me vent,
infarct i am growing so fond.
the Callum interview was great,
a true friendship did folk,
genuine from Callum was on a plate,
he got into Sam like a broccoli stalk.
i hope everyone can relate,
difficulties is not always seen or heard,
Sam's voice did grate,
for me to not have compassion is absurd.
Callum is a player,
but genuine is the Sam affection,
the interview has made neither a payer,
it massively moved both up to my winning selection.

joeysteele 24-07-2013 07:54 AM

This is one of your fairer and better ones waterhog, I was massively moved by this chat between them.
The best thing I have seen this series, totally genuine from both and there is clearly a lot of trust and real friendship there too.
It really made me think and I got very sentimental as to it actually.

smeagol 24-07-2013 07:57 AM

sam is one of the most boring housemates of all time , his hearing problem should be no case to win. cant stand the sympathy vote.
and callum is just using him to make himself look good. that playing up to the cameras was fake and wrong he cant stop acting its just wrong.
im sure he likes him but for all the wrong reasons

joeysteele 24-07-2013 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6204692)
sam is one of the most boring housemates of all time , his hearing problem should be no case to win. cant stand the sympathy vote.
and callum is just using him to make himself look good. that playing up to the cameras was fake and wrong he cant stop acting its just wrong.
im sure he likes him but for all the wrong reasons

I don't see it that way at all, their friendship is one of the most unchanged and likely most genuine in the house this series.
Callum has shown strong unfaltering support for Sam from the start and it is clear Sam really has faith and trust in Callum too.

It really altered my thinking as to Callum and I had come to like Sam anyway.

While it is true Sam's hearing problem should not be case to win the series,it is not Sam's fault he has that difficulty so it equally should not be a reason for him not to win it.

I don't think Sam or Callum did play on that issue anyway, it is just really good that in a fun task Sam felt able to tell someone how he was really feeling when a group were talking and how isolated he felt that he would rather go to bed.

It's not playing on a sympathy vote, this is his life day in and day out.I am glad he has Callum in there as support now,I really do.

Kyle 24-07-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 6204673)
Sam interview with Callum - heart breaking or a sympathy vote ? 24.07.13

we don't see hardship,
the game is manipulation,
i can not get a grip,
depression has a creation.
Sam is a true gent,
trying to house mate bond,
unlike Dan he does not make me vent,
infarct i am growing so fond.
the Callum interview was great,
a true friendship did folk,
genuine from Callum was on a plate,
he got into Sam like a broccoli stalk.
i hope everyone can relate,
difficulties is not always seen or heard,
Sam's voice did grate,
for me to not have compassion is absurd.
Callum is a player,
but genuine is the Sam affection,
the interview has made neither a payer,
it massively moved both up to my winning selection.

Nice poem, sums up my sentiments about Sam almost to a tee.

Cherie 24-07-2013 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6204703)
I don't see it that way at all, their friendship is one of the most unchanged and likely most genuine in the house this series.
Callum has shown strong unfaltering support for Sam from the start and it is clear Sam really has faith and trust in Callum too.

It really altered my thinking as to Callum and I had come to like Sam anyway.

While it is true Sam's hearing problem should not be case to win the series,it is not Sam's fault he has that difficulty so it equally should not be a reason for him not to win it.

I don't think Sam or Callum did play on that issue anyway, it is just really good that in a fun task Sam felt able to tell someone how he was really feeling when a group were talking and how isolated he felt that he would rather go to bed.


It's not playing on a sympathy vote, this is his life day in and day out.I am glad he has Callum in there as support now,I really do.

Sam is 24, his hearing impairment is not a new thing he would have been in big group situations before so whilst I appreciate he went in to raise the profile for people with hearing impairment, I'm not so sure he should have been milking it like that, he must have known he would struggle, we have seen very big characters go in before and become quite as they are totally overwhelmed by other bigger characters, and as for Callum waving his hands over his face to stop himself from breaking down, sorry Joey but that looked so fake and false to my mind. That looked like a winning sob story to me, mind you we didn't reward blind Mikey or give Steve a pair of legs so hopefully not, he really shouldn't win because of his disability as a grown adult I'm sure he would find that patronising.

Kazanne 24-07-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6204692)
sam is one of the most boring housemates of all time , his hearing problem should be no case to win. cant stand the sympathy vote.
and callum is just using him to make himself look good. that playing up to the cameras was fake and wrong he cant stop acting its just wrong.
im sure he likes him but for all the wrong reasons

How can Callum be using it to make him 'look good' he had to do it as a task,as for Sam I can totally empathize with him,he was answering questions put to him honestly,unless you are deaf or patially deaf,how could you understand how he feels,so how you can make out that was a 'sympathy' vote God knows,but if you've got no sympathy,you have no worries,do you?

Cherie 24-07-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6204723)
How can Callum be using it to make him 'look good' he had to do it as a task,as for Sam I can totally empathize with him,he was answering questions put to him honestly,unless you are deaf or patially deaf,how could you understand how he feels,so how you can make out that a 'sympathy' vote God knows,but if you've got no sympathy,you have no worries,do you?

when Sam left the room Callum hand waving away tears was a bit OTT and looking right at the camera, look at me I'm such a nice guy, if he really was a nice guy he wouldn't have to work so hard at it, that is my feeling at any rate.

Raph 24-07-2013 08:25 AM

Definitely moving. No game motivation behind it whatsoever, in my opinion.

Vanessa 24-07-2013 08:26 AM

Sympathy vote for sure.

Kazanne 24-07-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6204729)
when Sam left the room Callum hand waving away tears was a bit OTT and looking right at the camera, look at me I'm such a nice guy, if he really was a nice guy he wouldn't have to work so hard at it, that is my feeling at any rate.

I was talking more about Sam,Callum is a tad ott sometimes and awkward in his mannerisms but I don't think that makes him the demon he's made out to be on here.

Kyle 24-07-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barker (Post 6204732)
Definitely moving. No game motivation behind it whatsoever, in my opinion.

His VT being aired for everyone to see will forever tar him with the brush of 'gameplayer' unfortunately.

EVERYONE should have had their VT aired for the sake of parity.

joeysteele 24-07-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barker (Post 6204732)
Definitely moving. No game motivation behind it whatsoever, in my opinion.

None,no game motivation at all. I am still moved by it.

Sam has never explained his feelings like that before, I can take it on board completely, if you hear perfectly well you can get agitated trying to make out what a group of people are saying.
To only have 20%-30% of hearing like Sam has it must just come across as a muffled noise to him.

It explains too why he goes and lies down a lot of the time.
I loved the way Callum listened,let him say all he had to say,for me 100% genuine, 'the' highlight of this series of BB too.

Callum saying,after Sam had left,'' I love that guy'', was also really moving as well and I believe myself that was totally genuine again.

joeysteele 24-07-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6204735)
I was talking more about Sam,Callum is a tad ott sometimes and awkward in his mannerisms but I don't think that makes him the demon he's made out to be on here.

Hi Kazanne,
My word on another thread as to Callum was misunderstood,after last nights highlights I stand by that even more and I was guilty of it too not understanding more as to him.

He was given this task and ironically something surprisingly really good came from it with Sam's chat with him.
I also admired Callum for his impressive restraint when all Dexter could do when he went in was to just try to wind him up as he has been doing for over 2 weeks now.

JTM45 24-07-2013 08:39 AM

I think Sam is 100% genuine but i'm not so sure about Callum.
Callum kinda' reminds me of a slightly more subtle version of Mario in the Mario/Mikey situation.:hugesmile:

smeagol 24-07-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6204723)
How can Callum be using it to make him 'look good' he had to do it as a task,as for Sam I can totally empathize with him,he was answering questions put to him honestly,unless you are deaf or patially deaf,how could you understand how he feels,so how you can make out that was a 'sympathy' vote God knows,but if you've got no sympathy,you have no worries,do you?


not sure what you mean there but.

callum is using him so it makes himself look good he desperatly wants to be seen as mr nice guy that was total acting and not the first time ive seen him use him in that way to be liked. its wrong.
people dont act that way in real life. people act natural and real and dont have to keep telling people who they are or looking where cams are.

as for sam yeah i feel for sorry for the guy but this is bb not a documentary on hearing loss. its luke a all over again. sympathy vote . he will win based on that not entertainment or likeability

Vanessa 24-07-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6204766)
I think Sam is 100% genuine but i'm not so sure about Callum.
Callum kinda' reminds me of a slightly more subtle version of Mario in the Mario/Mikey situation.:hugesmile:

Yes, that's the way i see it. I know Sam struggles in the group because he's deaf. Especially when everyone is talking at once. :(

Kazanne 24-07-2013 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6204748)
None,no game motivation at all. I am still moved by it.

Sam has never explained his feelings like that before, I can take it on board completely, if you hear perfectly well you can get agitated trying to make out what a group of people are saying.
To only have 20%-30% of hearing like Sam has it must just come across as a muffled noise to him.

It explains too why he goes and lies down a lot of the time.
I loved the way Callum listened,let him say all he had to say,for me 100% genuine, 'the' highlight of this series of BB too.

Callum saying,after Sam had left,'' I love that guy'', was also really moving as well and I believe myself that was totally genuine again.

That is so true Joey,I am deaf in one ear and I tell you it's really frustrating sometimes,especially when in a group or when people talk in certain tones,I have to guess sometimes what people have said and hope I answer right,it's not as easy as some people think it is,it's not a sympathy vote it's fact,I could understand if he'de 'played on it' but he hasn't.

Kazanne 24-07-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6204771)
not sure what you mean there but.

callum is using him so it makes himself look good he desperatly wants to be seen as mr nice guy that was total acting and not the first time ive seen him use him in that way to be liked. its wrong.
people dont act that way in real life. people act natural and real and dont have to keep telling people who they are or looking where cams are.

as for sam yeah i feel for sorry for the guy but this is bb not a documentary on hearing loss. its luke a all over again. sympathy vote . he will win based on that not entertainment or likeability

None of that is fact you THINK Callum is using him,you don't actually know,you just like to paint Callum in a bad light and this is another opportunity,so pointless debating with such biased people.

smeagol 24-07-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6204786)
None of that is fact you THINK Callum is using him,you don't actually know,you just like to paint Callum in a bad light and this is another opportunity,so pointless debating with such biased people.

if you cant see when someone is acting or not then that's a real shame

The guy is a predator on the weak

Kyle 24-07-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6204776)
That is so true Joey,I am deaf in one ear and I tell you it's really frustrating sometimes,especially when in a group or when people talk in certain tones,I have to guess sometimes what people have said and hope I answer right,it's not as easy as some people think it is,it's not a sympathy vote it's fact,I could understand if he'de 'played on it' but he hasn't.

I agree with you, I don't think he has 'played on it' at all. He could have made a lot more out of it, cried in the diary room and complain about it but he knuckles down and gets on with it.

He has definitely rose awareness to me so even if he doesn't win the show he has achieved some sort of victory anyway.

NXS 24-07-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 6204673)
Sam interview with Callum - heart breaking or a sympathy vote ? 24.07.13

we don't see hardship,
the game is manipulation,
i can not get a grip,
depression has a creation.
Sam is a true gent,
trying to house mate bond,
unlike Dan he does not make me vent,
infarct i am growing so fond.
the Callum interview was great,
a true friendship did folk,
genuine from Callum was on a plate,
he got into Sam like a broccoli stalk.
i hope everyone can relate,
difficulties is not always seen or heard,
Sam's voice did grate,
for me to not have compassion is absurd.
Callum is a player,
but genuine is the Sam affection,
the interview has made neither a payer,
it massively moved both up to my winning selection.


I wanted to have a go at this... I wrote about the love triangle... lol.. :xyxwave::wavey:

There is a love triangle ~ Running a-muck through the house /
Involving a bunny rabbit, a cunning weasel ~ and a charming mouse /
The rabbit's name is Charlie ~ The Weasel's name is Callum /
He's a creepy kind of fellow ~ Like a Bizzaro Jimmy Fallon /
And then there is the mouse ~ His name, well it is Dexter /
It's his undying love for the rabbit, Charlie ~ He shows romantic gestures /
But Callum laid claim to her first ~ Until Mother Bunny did intervene /
And adjusted dear Charlie's perspective ~ Cleared up her eyes like drops of Visine /
This made the weasel mad ~ Yes Callum was upset to be thrown off the plot /
Then Dexter mouse seized his moment ~ And pulled the arm on the love-machine slot /
Unfortunately For Mousy-Dexter ~ As fate would intervene /
His affections went unrequited ~ As Charlie-Bunny blew his hopes to smithereens /
When she made it apparent ~ That a friendship is all they would have /
This, of course, please Weasel-Callum ~ While breaking Dexter's heart and making him sad /
Yet still there lies a twinkle ~ Inside of Charlie-Rabbit's eyes /
For the charming little mouse ~ But what will happen? ~ Tune in and watch live /

Kyle 24-07-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6204798)
if you cant see when someone is acting or not then that's a real shame

The guy is a predator on the weak

Who are you saying is weak?

Kazanne 24-07-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6204798)
if you cant see when someone is acting or not then that's a real shame

The guy is a predator on the weak

Oh please,lol at least be honest,your just annoyed Callum looked a good guy and it might mess with the hopes you have for your fave,it stands out a mile.:hugesmile:and to call Sam weak is a real insult

jet 24-07-2013 08:55 AM

Sometimes you just have to shake your head in disbelief at the heartlessness. I'm lost for words.


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