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mcginn 23-12-2002 10:32 AM

Bad sales for tv made popstars
 
In The Sun today it said the popstars band has had the lowest first week sales figures for a tv-made pop act.

The girls sold only 213,00 on there first single and the boys sold 147,000. Hear'say sold 559,000 copies of pure and simple in march 2001 more than the rivals totals put together.

Other tv made pop acts are loseing sale as well like Will young.

Does this mean the end of Reality tv pop shows :conf:

Kaz 23-12-2002 10:55 AM

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Other tv made pop acts are loseing sale as well like Will Young.
Maybe not so many singles sales, McGinn, but that's probably because Will's last single was also on his album. 'From Now On' has already gone double platinum (over 600,000 copies sold) and is still selling around 20-25,000 copies a week. That's not bad at all in my book! :dazzler:

I'm not surprised in the least that the most recent two 'Popstars the Rivals' bands haven't sold nearly so many records . . . . . . . because they're simply not in the same league vocally IMHO, and none of the songs were particularly good either.

I think the best thing for reality TV pop programmes to do would be to have a break for a couple of years, to allow new talent to develop. Otherwise, they'll just be trawling through all the people who've already been rejected for Pop Idol or Popstars over and over again.

kaphc 23-12-2002 01:13 PM

I was watching the news last night and they had figures on there about how many copies previous Christmas no 1s had sold.

Top was Band Aid with "Do they know it's Christmas" which sold over 3 million copies, and the others in the top 5 all sold well over a million copies.

It seems as though the sales of singles these days are very low in comparison to "days gone by".

em 30-12-2002 01:27 PM

sales r low cos of ppl downloading from the internet too. and so what if Will's sales have decreased. if his single is selling what Kaz said then thats brilliant and he sells just as much as other pop stars so whats the problem?? theyre just looking for a story. and ppl obviously still love will+gareth cos look how many awards theyve won! and i think next year Will wil win BRIT awards too. he'd win Best male if hes up for it and it'll be very interesting if him+gareth r up for best newcomer. although if theres another pop idol2 then some ppl might switch. which is why i dont want another one cos it'll spoil it for will and gareth.

Kaz 31-12-2002 09:03 AM

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sales r low cos of ppl downloading from the internet too
Good point, Em. :thumbs:

The singles chart just now really is all over the place - how else can you explain the Cheeky Girls being at No. 2?!?!? :shocked: Even Robbie Williams didn't get to No. 1 with his most recent single 'Feel'.

There's far more credibility and importance placed by the music industry on album sales nowadays. It was great to hear on the Radio 2 Album Chart show last night that Will's album 'From Now On' is the 18th best selling album of the year. That's fantastic for someone who we'd never heard of a year ago!

Sure, having a No. 1 single is great, but credibility and respect in the music business is, I'm sure, far more important in the long run. :dazzler:

BigSister 31-12-2002 09:07 AM

I agree because the internet you can download singles off them and I am pleased that Will got the 18th best albium of the year, it is a great albium

:elephant::elephant::elephant::elephant:

Romantic Old Bird 31-12-2002 11:39 AM

I really like Will's album.

I think his next one, when hopefully he has a freer hand on content etc will be even better.

Darius's album is excellent too. All original self penned stuff, and at least four potential hit singles amongst them. Still so young as well!

Get's better each time you hear it! Definitely get's the ROB
:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
five thumb salute!

Romantic Old Bird 01-01-2003 05:05 PM

More on the same subject:

Here are the redoubtable Dominic Mohan's predictions for Reality TV pop stars in 2003.....

CLICK HERE

Mairi 01-01-2003 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird
Here are the redoubtable Dominic Mohan's predictions for Reality TV pop stars in 2003.....
I can think of a few other words to describe Dominic Mohan and I very much hope he is made to eat his words, especially where David is concerned.

:mad:

Romantic Old Bird 01-01-2003 06:24 PM

I did mean that in an ironic way, Miriam.

I'm sure you know I really think he is a first class
http://www.huddersfieldtown.free-online.co.uk/turd.gif

:hugesmile::thumbs::hugesmile::thumbs::hugesmile:

WILDCHILD 01-01-2003 07:17 PM

Dominic Mohan really does think he knows how every thing i going to map out.
He thought Bubble was going to win Big Brother 2 and look who knocked him out of the fourth eviction!
At the end of the day, its Dominic VS The Public. Lets see who wins!:spin::dance::spin:

Kaz 01-01-2003 09:11 PM

The only time dear DM remotely speaks sense is when he says:

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WILL YOUNG could well be the exception. With a less fickle fanbase and a hint of longevity about him he is the one most likely to “do a Robbie”.
Spot on - the boy's a star, no doubt about it. :dazzler: :love:

Graeme 02-01-2003 03:03 PM

I think they need a change from pop to rock. I mean on Sky News a couple of months ago there was an active vote on and it was :

Are you fed up with manufactured music?

Yes = 66% No = 37%

It depends what the music industry chooses thoguh doesn't it really?

WILDCHILD 02-01-2003 03:37 PM

But at the end of the day, the music industry is big enough to hold all sorts of genres of music, whether it be pop, rock, hip hop, soul, dance, folk music etc - its up to people what they buy and listen to. Nobody is forced to listen to music they dont want to hear so if there are loads of bad bands out there, then so be it because people have different opinions when it comes to music.:bouncy:

Janette 02-01-2003 07:15 PM

I don't have a problem with so called "manufactured" bands or single performers. Any of them who make it big have just been given a leg up, that's all, and hopefully they would have got there in the end anyway.

I think the reason artists like Hear'say and Gareth Gates have struggled is simply that they have forgotten what made them succeed in the first place, their live singing ability!

Gareth Gates sang his heart out on each live show in Pop Idol along with Will and Darius. But since then he's mimed almost every time I've seen him. And I'm sorry but to mime at a concert is the ultimate sin!

Hear'say did the same, they claimed that all the dancing they did made it hard to sing live, and they mimed at concerts as well.

What we want to see is a true artist who performs when we see them. Will is a proper singer, he always sings live and has therefore proved it can be done. If David Sneddon follows in Will's footsteps he will probably succeed too, but if he mimes he'll fail just like Hear'say and Gareth Gates before him.

em 02-01-2003 07:26 PM

i dont quite understand how ppl complained about David winning Fame Academy and how the public r sick of "Davids" and "Gareths" when the public voted for them.

and Dominic Mohan doesnt know his ar*e from his elbow when he talks about Will Young. He bangs on about his sales being low and how he wont last beyond this years july but then the very next week turns his opinion round and says he'll be the only one who can do a Robbie and have a long standing career because hes just discovered from his Bizarre Awards that ppl who arent all teenagers and vote for him at TOTP or Smash hits or the National Music Awards do actually like him and support him so he'd best change his mind so he doesnt get too much abuse through emails. fool.

and i also dont see why he has such a problem with FA. the last show had 8million, basically the same as Popstars, and it polled over 6.9million votes. and all that without media support except on the last 2days or something. if it had had media backing it would have had huge ratings the whole way through and then say CBB was a huge success despite the fact it actually wasnt really compared to the first one.

and when he says the public have become sick of reality tv shows because they clog up telly i wonder how many got sick of PI being on the front page of every tabliod for about 2 months running instead of actual news.

sorry if some of that doesnt make much sense but im in a rush. grrr.

Mairi 02-01-2003 07:33 PM

Don't worry, I think the majority of us agree with you, em.

IMHO, ROB's rather graphic description of DM pretty well sums him up!

:laugh:

Kaz 02-01-2003 07:38 PM

Hiya, Em. :wavey:

I think you're talking a LOT of sense when it comes to Dominic Mohan's views. He's definitely had a short, sharp shock recently, and been made to sit up and take account of what 'Joe Public' actually want.

Let's hope he takes heed of this, and stops to think before he opens his mouth and lets his belly rumble in future! :shocked:

The public gets what the public wants . . . . . . . and they want Will to go on to bigger and better things, like the true star he is. :dazzler:

David also has a great future ahead of him, as both a singer and songwriter - as do Sinead, Ainslie and Darius. The rest of them I'm personally not too sure about - but I wish every one of them all the best for the future. They deserve it. :thumbs:

Mairi 02-01-2003 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Kaz
as do Sinead, Ainslie and Darius.
You forgot Lemar, Kaz. I think we'll be seeing a lot of him too in the future.

:dazzler:

Janette 02-01-2003 07:46 PM

That's fine, as long as we don't have to hear him too!


:laugh:

LEE 02-01-2003 07:49 PM

A girl after my own heart Janette. :hugesmile:

Sorry Miriam, but I could never understand all the hype about Lemar.

Mairi 02-01-2003 07:54 PM

Well, I still think Lemar will be a star SO THERE!! <stamps foot>

:hugesmile:

WILDCHILD 02-01-2003 08:03 PM

I am with you on this one Miriam- I too think Lemar is a star and I wanted him to win Fame Academy. I dont think, for a while now I have heard someone with a voice like Lemars enter the industry. He is amazing and as cliche as this might sound, he sends shivers down my spine. I loved his cover of Notihng compares to you and have downloaded it! IHe has GOT to make it or shame on the music industry for letting a man like Lemar slip away.

LEE 02-01-2003 08:09 PM

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He is amazing
Sorry, but the word I would have used is average.

WILDCHILD 02-01-2003 08:18 PM

Oooh, this could be the start of a war LEE!:dance:
But then I guess each to their own - I love Lemar, you dont - we'll leave it at that! :spin::laugh::nono:


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