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Waynoo 30-08-2013 10:39 PM

Anyone else think lauren is playing the victim?
 
She is a very smart person lets not get fooled by the "dumb blonde" act. She is playing for sympathy and the viewers are falling for it,even I was initially until the last few shows. Lets get her out!

Blue Cadillac 30-08-2013 10:43 PM

Ohhh yes. Playing an exceptionally good game, and will undoubtedly win, too.

Pincho Paxton 30-08-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Waynoo (Post 6348454)
She is a very smart person lets not get fooled by the "dumb blonde" act. She is playing for sympathy and the viewers are falling for it,even I was initially until the last few shows. Lets get her out!

I don't, because most of her sadness has been taken to bed, and hidden away.

Vanessa 30-08-2013 10:46 PM

No, not at all. She's very genuine.

Dionkan 30-08-2013 10:47 PM

She knows how to play the game and her ace which she has used is when she mentions transgende

kistar 30-08-2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionkan (Post 6348482)
She knows how to play the game and her ace which she has used is when she mentions transgende

Exactly

Dionkan 30-08-2013 10:57 PM

Scary person. Couldn't believe it when she gave Courtney pills,

Mrluvaluva 30-08-2013 10:58 PM

No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

Blue Cadillac 30-08-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionkan (Post 6348512)
Scary person. Couldn't believe it when she gave Courtney pills,

Thank goodness Courtney played along and pretended to take them!!

Nemo123 30-08-2013 10:59 PM

Her whole family was scathed by Keith Allen when he did a no-holds barred interview with her and her family.

Blue Cadillac 30-08-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 6348515)
No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

Hmmm......but I still don't think she's entertaining.

Mrluvaluva 30-08-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac (Post 6348528)
Hmmm......but I still don't think she's entertaining.

I think she's more entertaining than many in there. Her antics, her songs, the way she does things with the belief that she's doing something great when in fact not (hair etc) actually make me laugh. She is surely more entertaining than some of the others?

joeysteele 30-08-2013 11:06 PM

She irritated me loads in the highlights tonight and I hope more for her sake than anything else that she is out soon.
She is either way too fragile to be in there emotionally or simply way out of her depth. Whatever it is she is now far from entertaining.

Blue Cadillac 30-08-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 6348558)
I think she's more entertaining than many in there. Her antics, her songs, the way she does things with the belief that she's doing something great when in fact it's not (hair etc) actually make me laugh. She is surely more entertaining than some of the others?

I don't find any of them particularly entertaining, but I don't find her funny at all, to be honest.

kistar 30-08-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 6348515)
No. I think she's lived a very sheltered life and is very naive. She's not malicious. She gets her point across without calling people names etc. I think her parents have kept her child-like and that shows through. She's out of her comfort zone, quite possibly deluded in some respects, but I think a bit of a confidence boost and encouragement could help her.

I think she got about a bit when she was the famous child prodigy, apparently he/ James was on Oprah so had gone to America, being famous as a child surely must widen your horizons a bit?

I think you are (perhaps)being sucked in by the whole pretence, if you saw her on the this morning clip arguing with the doctor about him using the word transgender you would not think she was so vulnerable and delicate.

Mrluvaluva 30-08-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac (Post 6348568)
I don't find any of them particularly entertaining, but I don't find her funny at all, to be honest.

Ahh well. It would be a sh.it world if we all liked the same things.

Blue Cadillac 30-08-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 6348579)
Ahh well. It would be a sh.it world if we all liked the same things.

That's very true.

Mrluvaluva 30-08-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kistar (Post 6348575)
I think she got about a bit when she was the famous child prodigy, apparently he/ James was on Oprah so had gone to America, being famous as a child surely must widen your horizons a bit?

I think you are (perhaps)being sucked in by the whole pretence, if you saw her on the this morning clip arguing with the doctor about him using the word transgender you would not think she was so vulnerable and delicate.

I have previously seen it thanks and have made my own mind up about things before posting.

Pincho Paxton 30-08-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac (Post 6348568)
I don't find any of them particularly entertaining, but I don't find her funny at all, to be honest.

It's not funny!!! You have absolutely no sense of humour...

http://www.sheffieldsalon.org.uk/wp-.../11/fawlty.jpg

Nemo123 30-08-2013 11:11 PM

I can't stand her or the family she comes from. They're all manipulators and chancers. The Keith Allen show about them exposed.

Blue Cadillac 30-08-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton (Post 6348592)
It's not funny!!! You have absolutely no sense of humour...

http://www.sheffieldsalon.org.uk/wp-.../11/fawlty.jpg

I must have a fawlty sense of humour......... :hugesmile:

Pincho Paxton 30-08-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac (Post 6348607)
I must have a fawlty sense of humour......... :hugesmile:

Glad you got the joke, else I could have got a warning. :joker:

cfromhx02 30-08-2013 11:25 PM

No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

Vanessa 30-08-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cfromhx02 (Post 6348660)
No, of course she is not playing the victim. The behaviour of the crowd towards her shows the bigotry towards transgendered people; it's not just brain dead chavs like them that at heart when shove comes to push as Ron said but it's really push comes to shove that are against transgendered people or of course anyone who is different and doesn't conform.

Even those who make out they are OK with transgendered people secretly are very uncomfortable with them because they are different.Lauren has told us she had something thrown through her window.I myself am transgender, hence, partly why my username is so coded and why I don't show my picture.

Lauren has good reason for finding it hard to trust anyone and it is no surprise when anyone is horrible towards her or when uneducated people in the crowd (most in the public don't have a clue about transgendered people and throw their opinions around and don't make the effort to research it or read up on it).

I myself when I have been out appearing female in public have been surrounded by gangs,have had one person come up as close as she could to my face trying to force me to speak male to reveal myself to her, I caught light of my wig with my cigarette because of it, I've had abuse hurled at me as I passed a group of guys in street playing football that lived across from me, then one night they tried to break my door down, then another trans person I know had a petrol bomb dropped through her letter box, and luckily she saw it in time so as it didn't set light to the rest of her house.

So the bigotry against transgendered people because they are different is very real.You must know yourselves that anyone who was different and didn't conform and fit in with the crowd at school were the ones who were bullied.It carries on but more secretly but the true feelings of many come out when push comes to shove in adult hood too, anyone who is different gets abuse, and as transgendered people are the newest different thing on the block they get the most abuse.

So of course Lauren isn't playing the victim. She knows and keeps being proved correct how nasty most people truly are at heart towards transgendered people.

I agree. I love Lauren. I think she's great. And :hug:

Kizzy 30-08-2013 11:52 PM

To a certain extent yes, I just don't think this was the best Idea for Lauren to come on the show, she has said herself she is very sheltered at home with her family. She's really struggling in there it's not entertaining watching her, I feel very uncomfortable at times especially with the sniggering about singing and such.


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