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Z 30-09-2013 06:25 PM

German grammar
 
Just want to rant about how much I despise German grammar

There are four cases. They are as follows:

Nominative
Accusative
Dative
Genitive

Each case has four 'genders' to deal with, they are as follows:

Masculine
Feminine
Neuter
Plural

There is a different word for "the" depending on which gender and case you are dealing with, this is as follows:

Masculine Feminine Neuter Plural
Nominative der die das die
Accusative den die das die
Dative dem der dem den
Genitive des der des der

When you are using each of these cases and the word "the", it means something slightly different:

Nominative - the
Accusative - (into) the
Dative - (in) the
Genitive - (of) the

So if you have a sentence like:

The lion bit the man on the arm and dragged him into the den of the pride

It would go like this:

Der Loewe biss den Mann auf dem Arm und zerrte ihn in den Bau des Rudels

(maybe, I'm already confused)

But sometimes they change the word order around because they have all these different words for "the" depending on the case and gender, so you can move stuff around and it still makes sense because you can deduce the case/gender of a word by looking at the word for "the" in front of it... for example:

Den Mann biss der Loewe

Still means "The lion bit the man" but in English that would read "The man bit the lion"...

I still haven't got my head around this stuff. :bawling:

Jake. 30-09-2013 06:27 PM

Sounds pretty simple to me Greg, stop moaning and get studying :idc:

MeMyselfAndI 30-09-2013 06:28 PM

I loved studying German

fingers 30-09-2013 06:28 PM

It'll drive you barmy, look at me!

Z 30-09-2013 06:29 PM

There are so many rules :bawling:

fingers 30-09-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6404206)
There are so many rules :bawling:

..and they bleedin' keep changing them! According to the Rechtschreibung
rules all nouns had to be capitalized, not any bloody more they don't!

Z 30-09-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6404215)
..and they bleedin' keep changing them! According to the Rechtschreibung
rules all nouns had to be capitalized, not any bloody more they don't!

Are you fluent in German, fingers? I need help... with everything!! Haha

Vicky. 30-09-2013 06:39 PM

Sounds slightly like french. I never understood how some words were classed as masculine and others feminine.

fingers 30-09-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6404232)
Sounds slightly like french. I never understood how some words were classed as masculine and others feminine.

My Mother-in-law in Germany used to have a dog (a bitch) but the dog is masculine in German and it drove me nuts when they all called her (the dog) he or him!!!

fingers 30-09-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6404227)
Are you fluent in German, fingers? I need help... with everything!! Haha

I speak it very fluidly, the more fluids the better!

Z 30-09-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6404232)
Sounds slightly like french. I never understood how some words were classed as masculine and others feminine.

Me neither. The German word for "girl" is neuter. How is the word for girl not feminine but the word for city is?! Bizarre

fingers 30-09-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6404248)
Me neither. The German word for "girl" is neuter. How is the word for girl not feminine but the word for city is?! Bizarre

Frightening, innit!?

Z 30-09-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6404249)
Frightening, innit!?

Don't even get me started on the two-way prepositions. I read something helpful about how to identify what's accusative and what's dative, but then putting it into practice I always feel lost... Argh!

fingers 30-09-2013 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=Zee;6404253]Don't even get me started on the two-way prepositions. I read something helpful about how to identify what's accusative and what's dative, but then putting it into practice I always feel lost... Argh![/QUOTE

Don't worry about it, just have another glass of Schnapps and slur your way through!

Princess 30-09-2013 11:18 PM

I thought you studied German in uni Greg? I'm a 1/16 German but know none so I'm so no help. I have some German friends on Twitter if you really need some help.

Z 30-09-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess (Post 6404636)
I thought you studied German in uni Greg? I'm a 1/16 German but know none so I'm so no help. I have some German friends on Twitter if you really need some help.

I do, that's the tragic thing :joker:

Livia 01-10-2013 11:11 AM

On the bright side, it's a fabulous language to use for swearing.

Z 01-10-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6404830)
On the bright side, it's a fabulous language to use for swearing.

I had a friend who didn't pronounce her umlauts or her z's properly and as a result accidentally told a colleague that she stepped in a ***** when she meant to say puddle... dangerous, dangerous language...

My ex tells a story about how a friend had gotten two little pug dogs (der Mops, the plural would be die Moepse, which is also slang for boobs...) so that worked out quite well when asking to see the two little pugs..... :laugh2:

Tregard 01-10-2013 11:22 AM

http://i.imgur.com/WcV45c0.jpg

"Ach! Das wagen phone ist ein... nuisance phone!"

Tregard 01-10-2013 11:22 AM

http://i.imgur.com/WcV45c0.jpg

"Ach! Das wagen phone ist ein... nuisance phone!"

Livia 01-10-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6404837)
I had a friend who didn't pronounce her umlauts or her z's properly and as a result accidentally told a colleague that she stepped in a ***** when she meant to say puddle... dangerous, dangerous language...

My ex tells a story about how a friend had gotten two little pug dogs (der Mops, the plural would be die Moepse, which is also slang for boobs...) so that worked out quite well when asking to see the two little pugs..... :laugh2:

Blurted out laughing... I will never look at puddles quite the same.

fingers 01-10-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6404837)
I had a friend who didn't pronounce her umlauts or her z's properly and as a result accidentally told a colleague that she stepped in a ***** when she meant to say puddle... dangerous, dangerous language...

My ex tells a story about how a friend had gotten two little pug dogs (der Mops, the plural would be die Moepse, which is also slang for boobs...) so that worked out quite well when asking to see the two little pugs..... :laugh2:

Quite understandable, since

Pfütze {f}

Is one translation for puddle!

fingers 01-10-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6404206)
There are so many rules :bawling:

Have a look here, may be of some help.

> http://www.canoo.net/

Jesus. 01-10-2013 01:41 PM

I have hunger.

Vanessa 01-10-2013 01:50 PM

I did enjoy studying it at school, but it's a hard language to learn. :hugesmile:


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