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Kyle 20-10-2013 10:49 AM

'Our Colonial past'
 
First of all I am firmly against Imperialism, forceful occupations of other countries, forced repatriation, highland clearances, slavery, genocide of the aborigines, BNP etc etc...



Now onto my main question, does anybody think that if we hadn't done what we did in the past (for good or ill) we would probably be speaking French or Spanish now?

And also why is it always the United Kingdom that is stained with the image of imperialism? I thought the French, Spanish, Portugese and Dutch had also done similar? Is it because we were so good at it?

fingers 20-10-2013 10:55 AM

You missed out the Germans (in Africa).
The Romans had a stab at it, too. Not forgetting the Italians.

Kyle 20-10-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6441380)
You missed out the Germans (in Africa).
The Romans had a stab at it, too. Not forgetting the Italians.

Well I could have but given the sensitive nature of some people on this forum and the proximity of a certain war yada yada yada I nought it was best not to. In fact I wish I never made this topic now.

arista 20-10-2013 11:15 AM

"Is it because we were so good at it?"


yes the British Empire
what a time
I would run a nation. (if I had a Time Machine)



Vicky , Marc , Ammi and MTVN
would be my servants

MTVN 20-10-2013 11:35 AM

Not French or Spanish I don't think, they wouldn't have tried to colonise another European, Christian power. And yes we are probably more associated with imperialism because we were more successful, our influence on the world was and is more evident today

MTVN 20-10-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6441424)
"Is it because we were so good at it?"


yes the British Empire
what a time
I would run a nation. (if I had a Time Machine)



Vicky , Marc , Ammi and MTVN
would be my servants

I would lead the local people in a rebellion against your tyrannical rule

Jesus. 20-10-2013 11:37 AM

Well if my aunt had bollocks, would she be my uncle? No one will ever really know what language we'd be speaking, because it's impossible to know. Although English has been an evolving language over centuries, so it would take generations to wipe it out. Look at Welsh, for an example closer to home.

We are also the most hated because we were the last world empire that took over through force. There are arguments to be had about the US, but we were the last great conquering empire.

There were other empires that existed at the same time as ours, but not with our military capabilities and worldwide reach. That's it really.

It was only WWII and it's aftermath, that we started handing countries back, so our empire is still within living memory for lots of people around the world.

Scarlett. 20-10-2013 11:43 AM

We were the largest empire in history, so we're the one that sticks in people's minds. Not to mention the empire began to fall less than a century ago, with the final nation being handed back in 1997 (Hong Kong).

Verbal 20-10-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6441424)
"Is it because we were so good at it?"


yes the British Empire
what a time
I would run a nation. (if I had a Time Machine)



Vicky , Marc , Ammi and MTVN
would be my servants

You want to
go back to the days
when people had servants and slaves?
Like when India
was part of the empire?

Man plans, God laughs

Jesus. 20-10-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6441502)
We were the largest empire in history, so we're the one that sticks in people's minds. Not to mention the empire began to fall less than a century ago, with the final nation being handed back in 1997 (Hong Kong).

Always thought the Mongol one was bigger.

Scarlett. 20-10-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6441515)
Always thought the Mongol one was bigger.


I think Mongol was bigger, but we were in control of more nations, which would have made the British empire more influencial, it depends how you look at it, I guess :p

arista 20-10-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6441483)
I would lead the local people in a rebellion against your tyrannical rule



I would get Marc to lock you up


Then you would be shipped Down Under

arista 20-10-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 6441504)
You want to
go back to the days
when people had servants and slaves?
Like when India
was part of the empire?

Man plans, God laughs


Gambia

British shillings used


I would have a Palace.


http://www.thestujoecollection.com/i...6/gambiar2.jpg

Verbal 20-10-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6441531)
Gambia

British shillings used


I would have a Palace.

So you do
advocate slavery, yes?
That is a shocking admission
to make, Arista

Follow your own star

arista 20-10-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 6441534)
So you do
advocate slavery, yes?
That is a shocking admission
to make, Arista

Follow your own star


No but if in a Time Machine and I went back
you must follow the way it went.

Verbal 20-10-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6441535)
No but if in a Time Machine and I went back
you must follow the way it went.

Oh ok, I see
Thank you
For clarifying your point

Nothing endures but change

Kizzy 20-10-2013 01:05 PM

Our colonial past and the exploitation of other lands is shameful, and yet everyone was doing it so it's hard to say.
It's been suggested that Britain may be sued for the historic abuses of the past in the carribean, I don't feel that's warranted.
Following the war we now know how it feels to be threatened and have a deeper understanding of what we did, and how things could be if that occured.

Princess 20-10-2013 01:54 PM

Well I'm certainly glad we're not speaking Irish anyway.


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