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Kyle 06-11-2013 09:12 AM

Population control vs The right to life
 
Hypothetical questions:

Do we as a species have a duty to keep the worlds population at a reasonable level? (with regards to resources) and is there any way we can do it without restricting a persons right to have as many children as they want?

Is it irresponsible to have upwards of half a dozen children or is it none of anybody's business so long as they have a good upbringing?

Verbal 06-11-2013 09:14 AM

If parents have the financial and emotional might to support them, they can and should be allowed to have as many as they like.

Kyle 06-11-2013 09:19 AM

Even if it leads to a boon in population?

Jesus. 06-11-2013 09:24 AM

There is still plenty of room left, and theoretically there are enough resources, although they are not shared out in a fair way. I doubt we'll ever need to implement such measures, as nature has a way of kicking the s**t out of life when it needs to. Some new plague, or a different strain of an existing disease will cull huge parts of the world, and it will generally be in the poorer places with poor infrastructure.

Also, who sets the numbers for what reasonable population is? And who decides which people are allowed to have children or not? It's impossible to regulate.

smeagol 06-11-2013 09:29 AM

ugly people and tossers should be banned from having kids that will be a good start lol

Verbal 06-11-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6469771)
Even if it leads to a boon in population?

Yes. If what I just said was law then the world's population would already be half of what it is.

Kyle 06-11-2013 09:33 AM

Those questions always get reeled out when people have to do something universally. Who gets to decide? Who implements it? Who has the right to dictate to others what we should do? Oh it's too much hassle let's forget about it.

Some people argue that at 10 billion the population will tail off, some people argue that even 10 billion people with a decent standard of living and access to resources will be too much.

Kazanne 06-11-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6469777)
ugly people and tossers should be banned from having kids that will be a good start lol

That's you ruled out then Smea:joker::joker:
Spoiler:

JOKE,you're lovely really:hugesmile:

Niamh. 06-11-2013 09:46 AM

I don't like the idea of it and hope that we never have to consider doing it.

smudgie 06-11-2013 09:47 AM

A sensible approach would be to try and encourage smaller families.

Just 200 years ago the population of Britain was a mere 9 million. Quite frightening to think what another 50 years even of the population rise will do to this little Island..

Niamh. 06-11-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 6469791)
A sensible approach would be to try and encourage smaller families.

Just 200 years ago the population of Britain was a mere 9 million. Quite frightening to think what another 50 years even of the population rise will do to this little Island..

Yes but on the otherhand the population of Ireland was over 8million before the famine in 1845, now it's less then 6 and a half million. I think Nature does have a way of controlling the population

MTVN 06-11-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 6469791)
A sensible approach would be to try and encourage smaller families.

Just 200 years ago the population of Britain was a mere 9 million. Quite frightening to think what another 50 years even of the population rise will do to this little Island..

I'm not sure how much that could have been avoided though, most of it is due to things like lower infant mortality, longer life expectancy, better medicine, technology, greater wealth etc. rather than family size

It's a difficult question and one I'd rather leave to the experts, I think there can be a lot of scaremongering about population increase which isn't always as big a danger as it's made out to be (talking generally in the world here now not the UK)

Niamh. 06-11-2013 10:08 AM

Removed some posts, back on topic everyone.

MTVN 06-11-2013 10:11 AM

Surprises me that some people are happy to do it, what a waste of 9 months of your life

arista 06-11-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6469765)
Hypothetical questions:

Do we as a species have a duty to keep the worlds population at a reasonable level? (with regards to resources) and is there any way we can do it without restricting a persons right to have as many children as they want?

Is it irresponsible to have upwards of half a dozen children or is it none of anybody's business so long as they have a good upbringing?


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Jesus. 06-11-2013 10:15 AM

Couldn't you find a bigger picture, my green friend?

arista 06-11-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6469821)
Couldn't you find a bigger picture, my green friend?


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Vicky. 06-11-2013 01:12 PM

Theres nothing you can do stop stop people having kids, besides forced sterilization or forced abortion. And I like to think we are civilized enough to not inflict that on people tbh

arista 06-11-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6470064)
Theres nothing you can do stop stop people having kids, besides forced sterilization or forced abortion. And I like to think we are civilized enough to not inflict that on people tbh


China does it
One child rule


Problem is they abort all girls


Only have boys.


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Niamh. 06-11-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6470064)
Theres nothing you can do stop stop people having kids, besides forced sterilization or forced abortion. And I like to think we are civilized enough to not inflict that on people tbh

I'm reading a book atm where the world has been destroyed by a nuclear disaster so the survivors live under ground in a massive silo, the women have an implant to stop them getting pregnant and couples have to enter a lottery to try for a baby, if they win the implant is removed and reinserted after they have a baby. I wouldn't like to live in a world like that

Vicky. 06-11-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6470076)
China does it
One child rule


Problem is they abort all girls


Only have boys.

Yeah, that will work out well in the long run eh?

And yes, we should aspire to be like china, where babies are flushed down toilets after birth or left outside in a basket as the parents arent allowed them :thumbs:

the truth 06-11-2013 01:20 PM

limite benefits and pay benefits in food vouchers and these people would soon stop breeding for profit

arista 06-11-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6470083)
Yeah, that will work out well in the long run eh?

And yes, we should aspire to be like china, where babies are flushed down toilets after birth or left outside in a basket as the parents arent allowed them :thumbs:



Thats for Over populated China Only.

Jesus. 06-11-2013 01:38 PM

Breeding for profit?

I think it's really odd that the biggest corporations aren't in on this.

Jesus. 06-11-2013 01:38 PM

6% of all the people that have ever lived, are alive today.


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