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arista 08-11-2013 05:21 PM

Royal Marine is convicted of murder of Taliban insurgent
 
[Audio: In a recording of the incident a soldier
is heard saying 'It's nothing you wouldn't
do to us' after the shot is fired into his chest]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2k4zSKbIB


What a Utter Fool
he should have stopped his Head Cam
from collecting the audio/video


Then no one would have found out.

Link for Kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...ecuting-afghan

Kazanne 08-11-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6474212)
[Audio: In a recording of the incident a soldier
is heard saying 'It's nothing you wouldn't
do to us' after the shot is fired into his chest]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2k4zSKbIB


What a Utter Fool
he should have stopped his Head Cam
from collecting the audio/video


Then no one would have found out.

Link for Kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...ecuting-afghan

He shouldn't have done it at all arista:xyxwave:

Shaun 08-11-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6474212)
What a Utter Fool
he should have stopped his Head Cam
from collecting the audio/video


Then no one would have found out.

yes, what a missed opportunity

Cherie 08-11-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6474232)
He shouldn't have done it at all arista:xyxwave:

Too right Kaz.

Kazanne 08-11-2013 05:59 PM

I know they are soldiers and at war,but wasn't the man injured anyway,not very brave of them was it,I do respect our soldiers etc,but there are some rogue ones.this makes us look bad.

MTVN 08-11-2013 06:00 PM

I'm surprised the other two were completely acquitted, surely they were at least complicit in covering it up if not in the murder itself

arista 08-11-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6474258)
I'm surprised the other two were completely acquitted, surely they were at least complicit in covering it up if not in the murder itself


Yes but only One Fired the Death Bullet.

arista 08-11-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6474232)
He shouldn't have done it at all arista:xyxwave:

Yes but its Life and Death out there.
And they get killed without a word said.

Kazanne 08-11-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6474258)
I'm surprised the other two were completely acquitted, surely they were at least complicit in covering it up if not in the murder itself

You'de have thought so wouldn't you? Have they been totally acquitted?

Kazanne 08-11-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6474260)
Yes but its Life and Death out there.
And they get killed without a word said.

I understand that arista,but it seems wrong to do that to an already injured man.

MTVN 08-11-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6474261)
You'de have thought so wouldn't you? Have they been totally acquitted?

Think so, read that they'd been cleared to return to service

Marc 08-11-2013 06:11 PM

Why haven't all three been charged. Keeping this so quiet for two years.

Kazanne 08-11-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6474270)
Think so, read that they'd been cleared to return to service

That shocks me tbh.:shocked:

arista 08-11-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 6474272)
Why haven't all three been charged. Keeping this so quiet for two years.


Very Simple
Only One Fired
the bullet

Nedusa 09-11-2013 08:15 AM

Mixed feelings about this to be honest , don't think the soldiers should have been charged with murder I mean ffs they are fighting a bloody war against these people, this wounded Taliban man would have no hesitation if the tables were reversed in killing beheading and dismembering this soldier in a heartbeat.

So why are we coming over all bleeding shocked at this soldiers actions. He has probably seen his best friends blown to pieces in front of him he is probably in a constant state of PTSD his mental state is questionable , I agree he should not have shot the man BUT under the circumstances to call it murder on par with a civilian murder charge is plain nonsense.

This Soldier has made a mistake induced by the Fog of war, I'm sure it happens a lot but this incident was recorded and reported.

I hope this man is discharged from the Army and given the psychiatric treatment he needs and if he is jailed over this incident I hope it is no more than a few years at most.

Let's stop pandering to the bleeding hearts brigade ....!!!!

Ammi 09-11-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6474967)
Mixed feelings about this to be honest , don't think the soldiers should have been charged with murder I mean ffs they are fighting a bloody war against these people, this wounded Taliban man would have no hesitation if the tables were reversed in killing beheading and dismembering this soldier in a heartbeat.

So why are we coming over all bleeding shocked at this soldiers actions. He has probably seen his best friends blown to pieces in front of him he is probably in a constant state of PTSD his mental state is questionable , I agree he should not have shot the man BUT under the circumstances to call it murder on par with a civilian murder charge is plain nonsense.

This Soldier has made a mistake induced by the Fog of war, I'm sure it happens a lot but this incident was recorded and reported.

I hope this man is discharged from the Army and given the psychiatric treatment he needs and if he is jailed over this incident I hope it is no more than a few years at most.

Let's stop pandering to the bleeding hearts brigade ....!!!!

..did you listen to the recording from the DM article as well, Nedusa..?..my initial thoughts were quite similar to yours and what these men endure every day, how could that not cause 'the fog of war'....but after listening to only that 6 minutes of it, this was a 'matter of fact' cold act of murder and nothing remotely to do with the stresses of wartime...for me, your thoughts are extremely valid of many service men in that situation but I just don't think it applies to this incident.... as in any walk of life there are just 'bad people'....my surprise is that the other two had no repercussions at all, not of the actual murder but for beating/kicking him as he lay there before hand because there seemed nothing 'emotional' in their actions at all....just thugs/nobs who were unfortunately wearing uniforms and carrying weapons....

Kazanne 09-11-2013 09:26 AM

I am not of the 'bleeding hearts brigade' myself but I do think in this situation the soldier was wrong,ok they probably would have done the same to him,but we don't know that for sure,they are not all bad ,and two wrongs don't make a right,the man was already injured if they felt such hate,they should have just passed him by,or not made an issue of it,this soldier made it almost a 'game' not sure that's the right word but you know what I mean,it seemed to be in cold blood,so if that had been a 13 year old kid(who do fight) it would have been ok aswell? The soldier should get help and 'life' is a bit harsh I agree.

smudgie 09-11-2013 09:57 AM

All 3 should have been jailed.
Bloody disgrace.

Samm 09-11-2013 10:01 AM

what a disgrace

Z 09-11-2013 11:10 AM

Wow, that is shocking

Kazanne 09-11-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 6474993)
All 3 should have been jailed.
Bloody disgrace.

I think so too smudgie,they give our good soldiers a bad name.

Z 09-11-2013 11:31 AM

Incidents this like only serve to make the situation worse... the family, friends and allies of this murdered man are only going to want soldiers out of their country even more and will feel no remorse in murdering soldiers in an eye for an eye move... the soldiers involved in this death ought to be ashamed of themselves. They are not serving their country. They're murderers.

sassysocks 09-11-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6474967)
Mixed feelings about this to be honest , don't think the soldiers should have been charged with murder I mean ffs they are fighting a bloody war against these people, this wounded Taliban man would have no hesitation if the tables were reversed in killing beheading and dismembering this soldier in a heartbeat.

So why are we coming over all bleeding shocked at this soldiers actions. He has probably seen his best friends blown to pieces in front of him he is probably in a constant state of PTSD his mental state is questionable , I agree he should not have shot the man BUT under the circumstances to call it murder on par with a civilian murder charge is plain nonsense.

This Soldier has made a mistake induced by the Fog of war, I'm sure it happens a lot but this incident was recorded and reported.

I hope this man is discharged from the Army and given the psychiatric treatment he needs and if he is jailed over this incident I hope it is no more than a few years at most.

Let's stop pandering to the bleeding hearts brigade ....!!!!

Well said.


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