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alex_front2 18-11-2013 04:30 AM

too young and innocent to sing love songs
 
The state of Nick's love life is nothing to do with me but the Adele song just highlighted how unsuited he is to "adult" level love songs unlike similar aged Tamera (who's had boyfriends, relationships etc).

Nick is a sweet innocent older choir boy type and admitted he's never really had a girlfriend and I will conclude "never had a girl" . His singing is too pure, too childish, and squeaky clean, he can hold a tune and never go off key, but let's be honest, the only angsty love heart break he's had is probably when his mum stopped making him egg soldiers.

He's no more suited for "Someone like you" than Bruno Mars ode to sex "Gorilla".

Josy 18-11-2013 10:33 AM

He sang that song on Saturday perfectly in fact he was the best performance of the night IMO.

Niamh. 18-11-2013 10:38 AM

Nicholas has a pretty flawless voice tbf but there's no character in it imo

Vicky. 18-11-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6491055)
He sang that song on Saturday perfectly in fact he was the best performance of the night IMO.

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 6491058)
Nicholas has a pretty flawless voice tbf but there's no character in it imo

Agree with both of these

His voice is amazing, especially for his age(did you know hes only 16?!?!?!?! :joker: ) but he seems to have no personality or anything. He was my fave until a few wees ago when I got bored of him.

mizzy25 18-11-2013 11:23 AM

I had dozed off on sat and woke up to nick singing that song. Now I loathe that song but nick has a lovely voice and I actuallu quite liked it. I think he will win xf due to the whole of Scotland being behind him and old grannies too and quite possibly 16 year olds lol

Kazanne 18-11-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6491055)
He sang that song on Saturday perfectly in fact he was the best performance of the night IMO.

This^

Sophiee 18-11-2013 01:52 PM

I like him. I don't think he's anything special but I'm supporting him although more through the lack of liking anybody else enough :laugh:.

Kizzy 18-11-2013 01:59 PM

Aw he is lovely, reminds me of Joe Mceldrey great voice and a nice lad.

Mystic Mock 18-11-2013 05:04 PM

Nicholas has a decent but bland voice, if you heard it on the Radio you probably wouldn't even recognize that it was him that was singing the song.

Vanessa 18-11-2013 05:09 PM

I like him, but i still prefer Luke. I really like the tone of his voice.

Mystic Mock 18-11-2013 05:10 PM

Nicholas doesn't even act his songs out which is what his suppose to do, it comes off too mechanical.

Vanessa 18-11-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 6491505)
Nicholas doesn't even act his songs out which is what his suppose to do, it comes off too mechanical.

I agree with that. He doesn't connect with me.

joeysteele 18-11-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 6491505)
Nicholas doesn't even act his songs out which is what his suppose to do, it comes off too mechanical.

He can put a bit of passion into the lyric but I agree overall with what you say.
I could listen to a CD of him but I feel I would be bored at a concert by him,he has little in the way of charisma, from what we have seen so far anyway.

alex_front2 18-11-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6491055)
He sang that song on Saturday perfectly in fact he was the best performance of the night IMO.

That's why it was bad. Angst love songs are often about pain, heartbreak or about passion, sex, lust, excitement, desire and raw uncontrollable shove you against a wall sex. And yes, sex is a major part of love but it's curiously ignored on X Factor love themes. Love songs are about expressing emotion. Something you need to experience. Nothing behind the eyes, but rather he's like a reliable wind up singing toy that can hit every note.

Nicholas, sweet guy but has all the passion of cold mouldy custard. Love songs require passion. Miley Cyrus, say what you want, she's experienced "Wrecking Ball"

Nick is a nice "boy" but I don't want little kids singing adult stuff, he's is like a 5 year old girl copying her mums make up. You to live with the blues to sing the blues. Nick has zero relavant life experience to draw upon, that much is obvious. He'd be great at singing choir songs, but love songs no f@cking way. You can tell that the others of similar ages eg Tamera, Luke and Hannah have some romantic love experiences, they may not be note perfecton but they are living the lyrics.

Yes, just like Joe McElderry, Nick can hit every note perfectly, but that's the problem, lovesongs are not about note perfecton. When Bono sings it's not perfect, his voice crackles, light and shade, despair, anger, lust, sweat, desire, hurt, passion. Nick can't do this, not wanting to be rude but let's be honest he's a virginal choir boy. Yes, if he sang Blurred lines, or Mars' Gorilla it would be note perfect, right pitch and perfectly pleasant, but pleasant is not what what love songs are about. This sounds bad, but Nick needs to ahem, live a little, and then in 2 years when some b*tch has trampled on his heart or shown him a good time come back to the microphone. It's all tol choir boy.

Toy Soldier 18-11-2013 10:39 PM

His voice is technically good but for a song like that... it just didn't work, it was really obvious that he didn't understand the lyrics. I doubt he's ever even had a "proper" girlfriend, let alone experienced heartbreak, and if you can't understand the meaning of a song's lyrics then you can't put any soul into it.

Case in point; Alexandra Burke's "Hallelujah". Technically, an very good vocal performance. But she didn't "get" the lyrics at all, she blatantly didn't understand what they were about AT ALL, she spent half of the video... smirking :/. It's a cynical, angry, almost sarcastic song. She sang it like a happy gospel prayer. And as a result, it was soulless drivel.

alex_front2 18-11-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6492376)
His voice is technically good but for a song like that... it just didn't work, it was really obvious that he didn't understand the lyrics. I doubt he's ever even had a "proper" girlfriend, let alone experienced heartbreak, and if you can't understand the meaning of a song's lyrics then you can't put any soul into it.

Case in point; Alexandra Burke's "Hallelujah". Technically, an very good vocal performance. But she didn't "get" the lyrics at all, she blatantly didn't understand what they were about AT ALL, she spent half of the video... smirking :/. It's a cynical, angry, almost sarcastic song. She sang it like a happy gospel prayer. And as a result, it was soulless drivel.

Alexandra's Hallelujah is a great example. Original was quite imo raunchy, she turned it into a clean cut gospel dirge.

Toy Soldier 18-11-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 6492358)
This sounds bad, but Nick needs to ahem, live a little, and then in 2 years when some b*tch has trampled on his heart or shown him a good time come back to the microphone. It's all tol choir boy.

I agree. He can sing - but he needs to come back when he has something to sing about. He's just a normal little Scottish lad, the biggest decision he's had to make in his life is whether to take a kitkat or oreos in his packed lunch; his biggest heartbreak when he got RRoD on boxing day.

Vanessa 18-11-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6492382)
I agree. He can sing - but he needs to come back when he has something to sing about. He's just a normal little Scottish lad, the biggest decision he's had to make in his life is whether to take a kitkat or oreos in his packed lunch; his biggest heartbreak when he got RRoD on boxing day.

I thought he was amazing on saturday. First time i ever liked him. He needs to sing like that more.

alex_front2 18-11-2013 10:47 PM

Love the fact that despite Nicky singing an Adele song she tweeted support to Luke.

I am itching for Nick to sing something a bit racy. He's 17 and as controversial as this sounds if he doesn't do something a bit more grown up he's heading for safe, asexual Joe Mcelderry "20 Great Barry Manilow covers " just in time for Mother's Day territory. Not Blurred Lines but something on that level, surprise people. Be 17, not 12.

Vanessa 18-11-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 6492388)
Love the fact that despite Nicky singing an Adele song she tweeted support to Luke.

I know, right? Adele has very good taste. ;)

alex_front2 18-11-2013 10:58 PM

Nick is being set up to be the innocent choir boy. On Saturday he becomes same age as Luke and older than Tamera who both reference their love lives, and are treated as adults whereas Nick's being marketed as " never even kissed a girl". When the dancer smooched him Sharon shouted paedophile x 3, it's funny how Sharon was quiet when Luke had that " Ellie Goulding " type romantic vid when he sang. It can't be an age thing as Harry Styles supposed sex life was monitored from 16.....

Vanessa 18-11-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 6492398)
Nick is being set up to be the innocent choir boy. On Saturday he becomes same agecas Luke and older than Tamera who both reference their love lives, whereas he's being marketed as " never even kissed a girl". When the dancer smooched him Sharon shouted paedophile x 3, it's funny how Sharon was quiet when Luke had that " Ellie Goulding " type romantic vid when he sang.

But Luke is a bit older. A little stunner! :dance:

alex_front2 18-11-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6492399)
But Luke is a bit older. A little stunner! :dance:

Aha, Harry styles was 16 whrn he was marketed in an adult way eg cougar nonsense. Tamera is lounger than Nick. True Luke is months older but more cuter, but if Nick is seen as a boy it will harm his career when he potentially releases as album in 2014. It's gonna be mums and granny choir MOR stuff, see Joe McElderry.

Luke's way too young for me obviously but I'd fancy him if I was younger (someone from Made in Chelsea tweeted why cant he be older, true!

Vanessa 18-11-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 6492403)
Aha, Harry styles was 16 whrn he was marketed in an adult way eg cougar nonsense. Tamera is lounger than Nick. True Luke is months older but more cuter, but if Nick is seen as a boy it will harm his career when he potentially releases as album in 2014. It's gonna be mums and granny choir MOR stuff, see Joe McElderry.

I would never buy Nicholas as a romantic lead. He just looks like a child. Bless him! :joker:


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