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arista 18-11-2013 08:29 AM

'I'll never forgive Labour' says Rock Star Roger Daltrey
 
'I'll never forgive Labour, they destroyed my
mates' jobs': The Who's frontman Roger Daltrey
blames immigration policy which left
working class unemployed
Singer accused Labour of not controlling
mass immigration when in power

Musician said blame does not lie with immigrants
but with the politicians
Claimed the influx of thousands of
immigrant workers during Labour's
13-year reign left the indigenous
working-classes unemployed


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2kzInXCit



Bang On Right Roger

Verbal 18-11-2013 08:37 AM

Ridiculous Right Wing spin on a story. If the natives were willing to do the work in the first place then there would be no jobs for these 'evil immigrants'.

Kizzy 18-11-2013 12:37 PM

Rubbish, if maggie hadn't sent all industry 'offshore' there wouldn't be an issue.
Roger should read a little more into the modern history of the UK, was he still in some kind of purple haze in the 80s?

Nedusa 18-11-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6490982)
'I'll never forgive Labour, they destroyed my
mates' jobs': The Who's frontman Roger Daltrey
blames immigration policy which left
working class unemployed
Singer accused Labour of not controlling
mass immigration when in power

Musician said blame does not lie with immigrants
but with the politicians
Claimed the influx of thousands of
immigrant workers during Labour's
13-year reign left the indigenous
working-classes unemployed


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2kzInXCit



Bang On Right Roger

Actually Both Labour and the Conservatives have to share blame for the mess we are in now. Successive Govts have allowed unchecked and unregulated immigration to continue in the forlorn hope that Economic growth will increase. Well it hasn't and we are in a right mess now.....

Jesus. 18-11-2013 03:09 PM

There has also been enough time past for the natives to retrain, and focus on different areas for employment. The fact remains that many on this island are lazy and don't want to do the work that immigrants are prepared to do.

A raise on the minimum wage is essential. £5/hr isn't honest pay for honest work - it's daylight robbery. No one could support a family on that. It would also provide stimulus for the whole economy when more goes in at the bottom, then more is spread around.

Any country that is doing well will automatically be an attraction to people looking to leave their own countries - no one would want to move to a country with worse conditions.

joeysteele 18-11-2013 05:48 PM

Roger Daltry, 'who'??

Is he someone of any importance?

What nonsense, hardly worth taking seriously.

arista 18-11-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6491541)
Roger Daltry, 'who'??

Is he someone of any importance?

What nonsense, hardly worth taking seriously.


Yes Top Singer
Actor
and helps the young in a charity.



Bollocks to you

reece(: 18-11-2013 06:05 PM

Stay pressed Roger, labour are coming for that 2015 election.http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...r/ec20fb7f.gif

Kizzy 18-11-2013 06:14 PM

I agree Joey, the point raised about natives retraining is not valid either as there is not enough work in the areas that were predominantly industrial.
In one town alone there were 400 applicants for 4 posts in a coffee shop.
I don't feel branding those born in the shadow of these towns lazy is right or fair, immigration has caused a problem that is more concentrated in some areas than others.

Livia 18-11-2013 06:58 PM

I'm not a fan of celebrities giving a political opinion... however if we're going to have free speech, everyone has the right to say what's on their mind. Interesting that Roger Daltry isn't getting a similar amount of slack cut for a personal opinion as was cut for Simon Cowell. I guess it's all about who it is you're upsetting.

Kizzy 18-11-2013 07:06 PM

It's not the same thing at all is it?
A government minister attacking the personal opinion of an individual in the public eye is not the same as an individual in the public eye having a personal opinion a 13yr period of government.

joeysteele 18-11-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6491561)
Yes Top Singer
Actor
and helps the young in a charity.



Bollocks to you

Lot's of people help the young and indeed old in charities arista but they get absolutely no recognition for that, so while I of course applaud all efforts in charity work with young and old by anyone, famous or otherwise, I am not impressed with celebrities who like it 'known' they do.

Neither does being a particularly successful singer or actor impress me either, he should maybe look at things from all angles,similarly as Simon Cowell in his daft statement as to education needs to as well.

As to the the final line of your post above, I would more likely express that to Mr Daltrey in fact.

arista 18-11-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6491905)
Lot's of people help the young and indeed old in charities arista but they get absolutely no recognition for that, so while I of course applaud all efforts in charity work with young and old by anyone, famous or otherwise, I am not impressed with celebrities who like it 'known' they do.

Neither does being a particularly successful singer or actor impress me either, he should maybe look at things from all angles,similarly as Simon Cowell in his daft statement as to education needs to as well.

As to the the final line of your post above, I would more likely express that to Mr Daltrey in fact.



Yes but Roger Gives Own Money

Shaun 18-11-2013 08:09 PM

I don't think anyone really gives a toss what rich musicians think of the economy.

Verbal 18-11-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6491923)
I don't think anyone really gives a toss what rich musicians think of the economy.

Especially when they don't even live in this country

arista 18-11-2013 08:13 PM

Joey:

Daltrey appeared in The Wizard of Oz in Concert: Dreams Come True in 1995 for the Children's Defense Fund, and at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert to benefit AIDS research in 1992. Roger Daltrey's 1994 Celebration raised funds to support Babies and Children's Hospital in New York City, as well.

With the Who, he performed for the Robin Hood Foundation at the Concert for New York City and other benefits in 2001; at Neil Young's Bridge School Benefit in 1999; and in the Quadrophenia Concert for the Prince's Trust in Hyde Park, 1996. In addition, Daltrey performed at benefits in Vail, Colorado, in 1999, and attended a PETA benefit with Sarah McLachlan and Chrissie Hynde in the same year.

All the Who's Encore Series profits go to young people's charities. Roger Daltrey was instrumental in starting the Teenage Cancer Trust concert series in 2000, with the Who actually playing in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2007 and 2010 and Daltrey playing solo in 2011. He has endorsed the Whodlums, a Who tribute band which raise money for the Trust.[54] Daltrey played benefits with the RD Crusaders in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008; performed with the Who at Live 8 in 2005, for the Nordoff-Robbins Silver Clef benefit in 2005, and for the Los Angeles area City of Hope benefit in 2001 and 2004. The Who played with special guest Michael J. Fox at the 2008 "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Cure Parkinson's" benefit.



[Daltrey also announced that
a portion of ticket sales from
his solo tours would go to fund
the teen cancer centres. In 2012,
he offered his support to a project
helping unemployed young
people
in Heathfield, run by Tomorrow's People Trust.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Daltrey

Kizzy 18-11-2013 08:14 PM

You don't have to be a charitable benefactor to get your opinion in the Mail....Just a tory one :laugh:

What else have we to look forward to, we've had the education minister telling Cowell off....I'm guessing the equalities minister will be having a word with Robin Thicke and the health minister giving Miley Cyrus a rollocking for promoting smoking?

Z 18-11-2013 08:23 PM

I do think the "look, no hands!" approach to immigration was really ****ing dumb, but it's all swings and roundabouts really... if you can't get a job then I don't think you're looking hard enough. Yeah it can be really bloody difficult, it took 3 months of unemployment and searching before I managed to get the part time job I have now, but I managed it eventually.

joeysteele 18-11-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6491936)
Joey:

Daltrey appeared in The Wizard of Oz in Concert: Dreams Come True in 1995 for the Children's Defense Fund, and at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert to benefit AIDS research in 1992. Roger Daltrey's 1994 Celebration raised funds to support Babies and Children's Hospital in New York City, as well.

With the Who, he performed for the Robin Hood Foundation at the Concert for New York City and other benefits in 2001; at Neil Young's Bridge School Benefit in 1999; and in the Quadrophenia Concert for the Prince's Trust in Hyde Park, 1996. In addition, Daltrey performed at benefits in Vail, Colorado, in 1999, and attended a PETA benefit with Sarah McLachlan and Chrissie Hynde in the same year.

All the Who's Encore Series profits go to young people's charities. Roger Daltrey was instrumental in starting the Teenage Cancer Trust concert series in 2000, with the Who actually playing in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2007 and 2010 and Daltrey playing solo in 2011. He has endorsed the Whodlums, a Who tribute band which raise money for the Trust.[54] Daltrey played benefits with the RD Crusaders in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008; performed with the Who at Live 8 in 2005, for the Nordoff-Robbins Silver Clef benefit in 2005, and for the Los Angeles area City of Hope benefit in 2001 and 2004. The Who played with special guest Michael J. Fox at the 2008 "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Cure Parkinson's" benefit.



[Daltrey also announced that
a portion of ticket sales from
his solo tours would go to fund
the teen cancer centres. In 2012,
he offered his support to a project
helping unemployed young
people
in Heathfield, run by Tomorrow's People Trust.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Daltrey

It is an impressive list, however many 'stars' have given over many decades and still give a great deal of their time to all sorts of events and charities, of course I am impressed with such a list but he is giving in the main from his excess and is in a position to do so.

That is commendable of course but it doesn't make him right on everything and in my view it is a rather foolish and to a great deal likely wrong the statement he has made.

He is entitled to his view naturally but by giving his view then he opens the door to being challenged and criticised for what he has said.
What he does for charity and who he is has no relevance at all as to that, except perhaps he could be more careful as to what he says and how he says it.

smeagol 18-11-2013 09:22 PM

celebs are no different to you and me they have a right to voice their opinion. roger is no fool he isnt some idiot celeb . he is one of the few who are the real deal. so agree or not he can say what he likes.
russle brand was kicking of again about cameron , im so glad there is finally people standing up and coming out of the shadows to say these things as this country is in ruins .
the goverment are people too they watch tv read papers they take note. and all cause some celeb speaks up so its always a good thing when they do. whether we agree or not with them.
some foolishly say shut up and sing. which is ironic when the songs they sing are usally about the state of things in the first place lol.
wont be fooled again lol

the truth 18-11-2013 09:46 PM

labour were a complete and utter disaster, Im sad to say.
Kinnock would have done a better job but being half bald half ginger and welsh meant he had no chance....oh he also had warmth and passion which tends to exclude you from british politics

if wed got past all that superficial guff wed have found a man willing to at least attempt strike a far better balance between the unions and the workers, the rich and the poor, the imported and exported jobs and immigration.

Kizzy 18-11-2013 10:01 PM

Kinnock was assasinated by a very aggressive media campaign and the visual imagery that was the brainchild of a famous advertising brand.
One that has interestingly been picked up by Cameron recently for his upcoming attack on Milliband prior to the elections...
Dirty politics, the torys are running scared.

the truth 18-11-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6492286)
Kinnock was assasinated by a very aggressive media campaign and the visual imagery that was the brainchild of a famous advertising brand.
One that has interestingly been picked up by Cameron recently for his upcoming attack on Milliband prior to the elections...
Dirty politics, the torys are running scared.

ALL miliband has to do is be sensible, show some backbone and move to the left of the war criminal tony bliar
he also has to find a common sense intelligent patient balance.
the gap between rich and poor is BIGGER in The UK than the USA
the top 1% own 60% of the UK
in America that top 1% own only 50%
the duke of Westminster has gone from £3.2 billion to £8 billion in 20 years
phil green has trebled his wealth too

so clearly successive governments have enslaved us to the massive corporations and made us energy and utility slaves too

miliband has massive opportunities for battle
gas, water, electricity, hs2, immigration, Europe, regional investment,the Scottish independence, roads, taxation, civil rights, the state of the police, the NHS the severn barrage, foreign policy, whe do we finally realise our fallen empire, is likely to be just England/wales and northern Ireland soon?
the disastrous state of the BBC, the quality is pathetic, the payments are a disgrace, the endless scandals, the bbc news is now more shallow than john cravens newsround

all of which got worse under labour

oh and while hes at it, can he do something to cut the amount of expense and coverage we have to endure about that boring useless family in buck palace....lets have a referendum on changing that pathetic dirge of an anthem too:wavey:

Vanessa 18-11-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6491541)
Roger Daltry, 'who'??

Is he someone of any importance?

What nonsense, hardly worth taking seriously.

The Who frontman. :)

user104658 19-11-2013 08:22 AM

Except that the bulk of [previously] working class unemployment is firmly rooted in the 80's and the crippling apathy / substance abuse problems of the generation that immediately followed that era?


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