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Livia 24-12-2013 02:05 PM

Royal Pardon for Alan Turing...
 
A Royal pardon, finally, for one of the greatest minds of the 20th Century. It was an appalling miscarriage of justice which ended in his suicide. It's hard to believe what happened to him. Thank God we've moved on...


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Turing-010.jpg

Computer pioneer and codebreaker Alan Turing has been given a posthumous royal pardon.

It addresses his 1952 conviction for homosexuality for which he was punished by being chemically castrated.

The conviction meant he lost his security clearance and had to stop the code-cracking work that had proved vital to the Allies in World War Two.

The pardon was granted under the Royal Prerogative of Mercy after a request by Justice Minister Chris Grayling.


"Dr Alan Turing was an exceptional man with a brilliant mind," said Mr Grayling. He said the research Turing carried out during the war at Bletchley Park undoubtedly shortened the conflict and saved thousands of lives.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25495315

Z 24-12-2013 02:13 PM

I've heard of him before... that's been a long time coming. Hardly any consolation to his family though, if he even has any?? Poor guy...

fingers 24-12-2013 02:16 PM

60 years too ****ing late.

Shaun 24-12-2013 02:22 PM

**** royal pardons. what the **** does that even mean? "oh sorry". CHEERS MAJ

Z 24-12-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameltoe and Wine (Post 6564968)
**** royal pardons. what the **** does that even mean? "oh sorry". CHEERS MAJ

I agree, but I suppose it's nice to have official vindication than just a general consensus that something was ****ed up and nobody did anything about it.

arista 24-12-2013 02:36 PM

Yes its a Good thing
of course late

Marc 24-12-2013 02:43 PM

Scott would say... "He's hot! :amazed: let's dig him up!"

lily. 24-12-2013 02:48 PM

It disgusts me that this kind of treatment was once acceptable.

arista 24-12-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lily. (Post 6565062)
It disgusts me that this kind of treatment was once acceptable.


Go back years we had a Empire
Back in the Days gays were not permitted
so its normal

Z 24-12-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6565079)
Go back years we had a Empire
Back in the Days gays were not permitted
so its normal

Doesn't change the fact she thinks it's disgusting that it was once considered acceptable... I agree with lily

arista 24-12-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus (Post 6565080)
Doesn't change the fact she thinks it's disgusting that it was once considered acceptable... I agree with lily


Sure

Z 24-12-2013 03:05 PM

Does anyone know if he has any surviving family members?

King Gizzard 24-12-2013 03:29 PM

Find it quite insulting how they're 'pardoning' him if anything...it should never have been a criminal offense in the first placeso it should have been completely wiped from existence

Livia 24-12-2013 05:13 PM

I think the pardon, so long after the awful conviction, goes some way to say that the conviction was wrong, an acknowledgement of something that never should have happened. It's decades late... but I'm very pleased to see it. I'm pleased that people who perhaps didn't know him will learn what a hero he was, what a contribution he made, that they will be sickened by what happened and ensure it never happens again.

arista 24-12-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 6565097)
Find it quite insulting how they're 'pardoning' him if anything...it should never have been a criminal offense in the first placeso it should have been completely wiped from existence



Do you study history?


Being Gay was Criminal
back then
you are aware of that.

Livia 24-12-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 6565097)
Find it quite insulting how they're 'pardoning' him if anything...it should never have been a criminal offense in the first placeso it should have been completely wiped from existence

How would you go about wiping something from existence without wiping away the memory of Alan Turing, and how he suffered at the hands of a despicable society back then? I think the best they can do is a royal pardon.

fingers 24-12-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6565193)
I think the pardon, so long after the awful conviction, goes some way to say that the conviction was wrong, an acknowledgement of something that never should have happened. It's decades late... but I'm very pleased to see it. I'm pleased that people who perhaps didn't know him will learn what a hero he was, what a contribution he made, that they will be sickened by what happened and ensure it never happens again.

He was one of those responsible for our success during WW2 even more so than Churchill, and then he gets the shabbiest treatment from the "Establishment", many of whom were more than likely also homosexual!

How ****ing hypocritical is that?

arista 24-12-2013 05:58 PM

Gay Activist Peter Tatchell ( rushing around every news)
is Demanding the other 50,000 men
need the same pardon.

Livia 24-12-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6565275)
Gay Activist Peter Tatchell ( rushing around every news)
is Demanding the other 50,000 men
need the same pardon.

Absolutely they do. Let's hope this high-profile one starts that off... a public acknowledgement that what happened to all those people was not just wrong, it was evil.

Z 24-12-2013 06:44 PM

Hopefully, Livia!

Livia 31-12-2013 03:56 PM

There are several e-petitions on the go asking that the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square be dedicated to Alan Turing with a statue. A fitting tribute to a man who did so much for this country in particular, and technology in general.

fingers 31-12-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6576323)
There are several e-petitions on the go asking that the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square be dedicated to Alan Turing with a statue. A fitting tribute to a man who did so much for this country in particular, and technology in general.

Betcha milk-snatcher Thatcher gets the place! :devil:

Livia 31-12-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6576337)
Betcha milk-snatcher Thatcher gets the place! :devil:

I'd take that bet. I think there would be a public outcry if they put her statue on the plinth.

Z 31-12-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6576323)
There are several e-petitions on the go asking that the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square be dedicated to Alan Turing with a statue. A fitting tribute to a man who did so much for this country in particular, and technology in general.

That would be lovely!


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