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Benjamin 05-01-2014 10:24 PM

Where does 'people are entitled to their opinion' stop ?
 
Jordan asked this question in a BB thread and I think it would make for a great topic for the forum.

Josy 05-01-2014 10:26 PM

When the opinions begin to show extremist tendencies

Me. I Am Salman 05-01-2014 10:27 PM

By not resorting to insults, just say you don't agree with it :shrug:

smudgie 05-01-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590486)
Jordan asked this question in a BB thread and I think it would make for a great topic for the forum.

Perhaps when the opinion is directed at somebody personally and is insulting.

Kazanne 05-01-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590486)
Jordan asked this question in a BB thread and I think it would make for a great topic for the forum.

People are entitalled to their opinion ,please or offend ,their opinions are what they believe in so should be allowed to express them to a certain extent,good question from Jordan though.

Jordan. 05-01-2014 10:28 PM

When the opinion is based on something you don't have experience/knowledge of and can cause great offense *cough* Evander.

Vicky. 05-01-2014 10:29 PM

I think views expressed in private, pretty much anything goes. I mean like, when talking to a good friend/family member/etc

I dont pussyfoot around people incase I offend them..I tend to think Im tolerant of everthing tbh so I wouldnt offend people often anyway(besides greeting gay friends as my fags..but thats their fault :laugh: ), but I would never purposely say something offensive.

In the recent BB thing, I feel if it hadnt been on tv it would be fine. He was asked an opinion and gave it. I dont see a problem with that, even if his views are homophobic. It becomes a problem when it is said to someone who takes offence I think. Eg. Actually saying to a gay person that they are unnatural.

I think homophobia/racism/etc is more about intent than the actual wording.

user104658 05-01-2014 10:59 PM

It doesn't stop, people are endlessly entitled to their opinion. Where people make the mistake is in thinking that being entitled to their opinion allows them to state that opinion without questioning or criticism.

People can hold, and state, any opinion they choose to. Likewise, they have to accept that in doing so they may be disliked by others and have that opinion (and their character for holding that opinion) called into question.

If they CAN NOT handle that criticism, then they SHOULD NOT share the opinion. And they certainly should not bleat "but I'm entitled to my opinion you can't say I'm wrong!!" when people dislike it.

If you want to state an opinion, own it. Be prepared to accept that others will disagree (sometimes forcefully), and be prepared to defend it. Properly.

thesheriff443 05-01-2014 11:02 PM

when a person post's their opinions and they are insulted.

Smithy 05-01-2014 11:02 PM

when it offends someone else

MTVN 05-01-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6590674)
It doesn't stop, people are endlessly entitled to their opinion. Where people make the mistake is in thinking that being entitled to their opinion allows them to state that opinion without questioning or criticism.

People can hold, and state, any opinion they choose to. Likewise, they have to accept that in doing so they may be disliked by others and have that opinion (and their character for holding that opinion) called into question.

If they CAN NOT handle that criticism, then they SHOULD NOT share the opinion. And they certainly should not bleat "but I'm entitled to my opinion you can't say I'm wrong!!" when people dislike it.

If you want to state an opinion, own it. Be prepared to accept that others will disagree (sometimes forcefully), and be prepared to defend it. Properly.

Agree, think often people just use "I'm entitled to my opinion" to dismiss any criticism of it, however valid that may be. Anyone is entitled to hold any opinion, but if you profess a certain view point then you should be prepared to be challenged on that view.

Vicky. 05-01-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 6590690)
when it offends someone else

Nah...people could (and do) get offended by anything and everything though. People would be afraid to speak ever.

Amy Jade 05-01-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 6590690)
when it offends someone else

Nahh some people are far too easily offended. Think offcom...

Smithy 05-01-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6590694)
Nah...people could (and do) get offended by anything and everything though. People would be afraid to speak ever.

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Originally Posted by StupidHoe (Post 6590703)
Nahh some people are far too easily offended. Think offcom...

ok, well when it offends a majority of people

Vicky. 05-01-2014 11:05 PM

Your views are offending me. Please shut up

user104658 05-01-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6590693)
Agree, think often people just use "I'm entitled to my opinion" to dismiss any criticism of it, however valid that may be. Anyone is entitled to hold any opinion, but if you profess a certain view point then you should be prepared to be challenged on that view.

Well it ends up being circular logic, doesn't it? "In my opinion, your opinion is awful, and I'm entitled to my opinion of your opinion."

Smithy 05-01-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6590713)
Your views are offending me. Please shut up

yeah, well your canckles are offending me :hmph:

Benjamin 05-01-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 6590720)
yeah, well your canckles are offending me :hmph:

They offend all of us, Smithy.

Vicky. 05-01-2014 11:08 PM

:sad:

Livia 05-01-2014 11:41 PM

People's entitlement to voice their opinion should not override the need for tact in certain situations. Having a valid opinion is one thing, blurting out everything that pops into your head is another.

the truth 06-01-2014 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6590863)
People's entitlement to voice their opinion should not override the need for tact in certain situations. Having a valid opinion is one thing, blurting out everything that pops into your head is another.

lets hope you start to live up to that mantra

the truth 06-01-2014 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590507)
When the opinion is based on something you don't have experience/knowledge of and can cause great offense *cough* Evander.

so only gay people can discuss gay issues, only men discuss mens issues, only disabled discuss disabled issues, only football players discuss football? only politicians discuss politics? only welsh farmers discuss sheep?

absurd

Nedusa 06-01-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6591277)
lets hope you start to live up to that mantra

Well said...!!!!:hugesmile::hugesmile:

Nedusa 06-01-2014 08:24 AM

American comedian George Carlin summed it up nicely when he said " you have the right to say anything about me , insult me if you wish... But I have the right to smack you in the face for saying it....."

joeysteele 06-01-2014 08:30 AM

When they should know better and keept it to themselves, Especially if making the opinion public in an inappropriate setting as on a TV show.
Such as the issue as to the gay topic on BB, it is not an appropriate setting for being able to fire off your own right or wrong views because it is likely against the BB rules to do so.

On here in this forum, if someone invites debate then it is more acceptable to express an opinion but if an opinion has no justification as to it and turns out illogical and /or wrong then it will be challenged and likely very strongly.

I forget who said it but I said it once before on here and I think Livia knows who said it but it goes something like this.
''It is better to keep quiet and be thought foolish than to open your mouth and remove all doubt''.


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