Exactly what is wrong with Big Brother shown in a few mins
 

The older ones having a genuinely interesting conversation and Lee Ryan legs it at the mention of Syrian refugees, then the camera follows him outside and we're treated to him talking about himself.
If it was live I could sit watching them debate like that for hours, yet we're 'treated' to the vacuous, mindless drivel that entertains Blue fans. I'm also sick of hearing about Dappy's knob. Its rather ironic that he has a massive prick.

What blue fans

He gets scared because he doesn't have the mental capacity for such discussions and his ego won't allow a subject to be about someone other than himself.

Totally with you on this Verbal, what a borefest tonight.

100% agree. I love interesting heated debate, not inane school kid behaviour.

I agree verbs,was enjoying the adult conversations,but it seems BB think we are all kids who want to watch the fumblings of moronic celebs

What the hell is going on with this show :sleep::sleep::sleep:

Absolutely agree

:worship: great post Verbal.

Lee acts like a big daft kid. Don't think he could take part in a serious conversation if he tried.

You said it, great post.

Hi Gillian,where you been?:hugesmile:

Agreed

I like to see both types of Housemates on the show, that's what makes BB so interesting from other Reality Shows, but I've got to admit I am getting fed up of seeing Lee and Casey pretending to fancy each other.

..I don't think it's ever been any different in Celebrity BB though..celebrities in general are egos and I don't recall any in the past really discussing anything other than themselves...so I guess it's down to whether you're interested in hearing about their lives...

Hiya Kaz, i always mean to come on during off season but i never seem to find the time. Hope you're well :)

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Absolutely agree, was enjoying the debate but no, because Lee is a bigger name than Jim (?), they had to cut to him.

Don't mind the conversations about egos, there was a brilliant one on BOTS last night where Lionel was droning on about some Variety Show that he was part of in honour of the Queen Mums 80th birthday, Lionel was name dropping, then Jim interjected that he was at that show, and Lionel ignored him and then Jim had to say it again later on in the conversation, it was priceless, It is when they cut away from some interesting interaction to show people fumbling under the covers that I have an issue with.

I saw that Cherie,it was funny and I guess at 82 years old he probably has met loads of stars as wasn't he quite a big personality in his day? When he forgot about Jim was priceless,I also remember him being on GMTV I think it was ,someone stole one of his dogs and he was mortified,anyone know if he ever found it again?

I keep forgetting he is 82, hats off to him for doing this at his age! Yes I'm sure he has met loads of people and we will hear about every one of them :joker: No idea about his dog!

100% agree. I'm rapidly losing interest in this series. Even if it was 50 - 50, showing equal amounts of time between the mature and younger groups, I'd hang in there. But I'm sick of the sight of Lee and Casey fumbling about in bed and the hot tub borefest scenes.

My lovely mate Verbal ,as much as i love you I have to disagree about Lee ,I love him !! but agree with you the older housemates are a LOT more interesting than they young ones who only talk about themselves and sex ,perverted or otherwise, Im sick to the molars of hearing about Dappys dick and even more sick of him fiddling with it ,its like he got it for Xmas and the noveltys not worn off yet ,and would have preffered to look at the privet bear in the garden than watch 2 women kissing on my tv

I haven't watched a second of this series, and I don't even miss it. Same s**t, different season.

Can't see me watching for much longer tbh

This one is actually pretty different to the usual CBBs, really steamy, all for the cameras of course but the celebs are usually much more reserved