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arista 14-05-2014 07:22 PM

Labour MP refuses to apologise for calling Pfizer 'rapists'
 
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The Labour MP Austin Mitchell has refused to apologise for likening the US pharmaceutical giant Pfizer to "rapists" over its controversial takeover of AstraZeneca.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...pfizer-rapists



Typical of Mitchell

joeysteele 14-05-2014 11:25 PM

He's always been rather forthright and more often than not silly in his outbursts.

Kizzy 15-05-2014 12:34 AM

He was speaking metaphorically, wow look at the ignorant hordes queuing to express their outrage at this mortally offensive word. :bored:

smudgie 15-05-2014 12:43 AM

He was a great newscaster.

arista 15-05-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 6847298)
He was a great newscaster.


Sure
but the sooner he leaves the better


his good days are over

Kizzy 15-05-2014 08:53 AM

That's quite an ageist remark arista, if he is still compos mentis he can do his job.

arista 15-05-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6847458)
That's quite an ageist remark arista, if he is still compos mentis he can do his job.



Wrong others his age are not reckless

Kizzy 15-05-2014 09:17 AM

Get some perspective it was just a word used out of context that resulted in a smear campaign.

arista 15-05-2014 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6847469)
Get some perspective it was just a word used out of context that resulted in a smear campaign.



No its not just the RAPE word
its the Fact he stands by it.

Kizzy 15-05-2014 09:36 AM

Yes he admits the correct term was rapacious .... big deal.
It wasn't malicious or used to cause anyone any offence, but of course it will be spun that way.

Nedusa 15-05-2014 09:51 AM

I quite like it when mature politicians (who are not standing for re-election) dispense with the political bull**** and say it like it is.

It's actually a shock to a lot of people to actually hear a real opinion unsanitised put out there for everyone's benefit.

Like it or not that his his view and it's a view I would wager that is shared by more than a few people. This Govt and probably quite a few preceeding this one are scared to stand up to the US on any area. that was the point Mr Mitchell was trying to make although his use of the word "rapist" was a bit questionable.

Livia 15-05-2014 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6847360)
Sure
but the sooner he leaves the better


his good days are over

True. He's completely out of touch with the soundbite age. He's a liability to his party.

Imagine how this thread would read if a Conservative had referred to an organisation as being akin to rapists!

Kizzy 15-05-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6847503)
I quite like it when mature politicians (who are not standing for re-election) dispense with the political bull**** and say it like it is.

It's actually a shock to a lot of people to actually hear a real opinion unsanitised put out there for everyone's benefit.

Like it or not that his his view and it's a view I would wager that is shared by more than a few people. This Govt and probably quite a few preceeding this one are scared to stand up to the US on any area. that was the point Mr Mitchell was trying to make although his use of the word "rapist" was a bit questionable.

Agreed and he has already clarified the misinterpretation so it's another storm in a teacup.

arista 15-05-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6847504)
True. He's completely out of touch with the soundbite age. He's a liability to his party.

Imagine how this thread would read if a Conservative had referred to an organisation as being akin to rapists!


Bang On Right

Kizzy 15-05-2014 10:11 AM

He's not the first politician to make a grammatical mistake and he won't be the last.

Livia 15-05-2014 10:16 AM

Likening people to rapists isn't a grammatical error. An error of judgement maybe, but grammar? No...

joeysteele 15-05-2014 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6847540)
Likening people to rapists isn't a grammatical error. An error of judgement maybe, but grammar? No...

I agree, unless you are dealing with that serious issue of rape then avoidance of ever using the word in any other context should be the norm.

Nedusa 15-05-2014 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6847763)
I agree, unless you are dealing with that serious issue of rape then avoidance of ever using the word in any other context should be the norm.

Actually the term "rape" is latin in origin and means to snatch or grab or carry off with force.

The Romans then changed the word to "raptus" which meant carrying off a woman by force and since then "rape" is always associated with sexual assault/violence.

I agree Mr Mitchell should not have used that word in the context of one Drug Company trying to takeover another Drug company.

Mystic Mock 15-05-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6847469)
Get some perspective it was just a word used out of context that resulted in a smear campaign.

He shouldn't give the opposition ammunition then if he doesn't want people to "take it out of context" I mean I'm not even a Politician and even I know that.

Kizzy 15-05-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6847540)
Likening people to rapists isn't a grammatical error. An error of judgement maybe, but grammar? No...

Have you read the article? It was a simple mistake...

rapacious
rəˈpeɪʃəs/Submit
adjective
aggressively greedy or grasping.
"rapacious landlords"
synonyms: grasping, greedy, avaricious, acquisitive, covetous, mercenary, materialistic, insatiable, predatory, voracious, usurious, extortionate;

Kizzy 15-05-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 6847895)
He shouldn't give the opposition ammunition then if he doesn't want people to "take it out of context" I mean I'm not even a Politician and even I know that.

Good for you, People shouldn't take every quote down to base level in order to score imaginary points imo.
That's not politics it's playground grandstanding.
Maybe if some expanded their vocabulary a little these errors wouldn't seem so offensive?

Livia 15-05-2014 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6847904)
Have you read the article? It was a simple mistake...

rapacious
rəˈpeɪʃəs/Submit
adjective
aggressively greedy or grasping.
"rapacious landlords"
synonyms: grasping, greedy, avaricious, acquisitive, covetous, mercenary, materialistic, insatiable, predatory, voracious, usurious, extortionate;

Yes, of course I've read it. He furiously back-peddled. That still isn't a grammatical error. The man is a liability, and if he was a Conservative you'd be singinig a very different tune.

Livia 15-05-2014 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6847912)
Good for you, People shouldn't take every quote down to base level in order to score imaginary points imo.
That's not politics it's playground grandstanding.
Maybe if some expanded their vocabulary a little these errors wouldn't seem so offensive?

Yes, absolutely. I'll remind you that you said this.

Kizzy 15-05-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6847970)
Yes, of course I've read it. He furiously back-peddled. That still isn't a grammatical error. The man is a liability, and if he was a Conservative you'd be singinig a very different tune.

Supposition...
Why are you nit picking? I could argue semantics with you all day... but I won't.
I've made my point.

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2014 03:50 PM

Pillaging is a more apt word than rape perhaps

next he will be saying that there is a n-word in the log pile!


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