Man pepper sprayed by Police drowns in Hastings lake
 

bit silly to run into a lake

I have mutual friends to him on facebook :rolleyes:

Oh, so do I. A few of my friends grew up with him.

so basically the cops murder someone else and get away with it.
if only they could be real cops and use all that so called training they have,. rather than resort to weapons all the time . which results in people dying.
to trigger happy to use their new toys than actually do police work. which would of stopped that happening if they did.

Why did he run into the lake

Because he was pissed.

To get to the other side.

LOL... answer of the day.

:joker:

Well he failed

I'm guessing he ran into the lake because he couldnt see due to the pepper spray :suspect:

dumbass

cant wait for the '****dapolice!!!11' brigade to start complaining

:laugh2:

If he was drunk and abusive then surely the police could have arrested him without having to resort to using pepper spray. In his intoxicated state he was no real threat to the police.

This was just laziness on their part, I mean why not just taser him as well to be sure.

Weapons like pepper spray and Tasers should only be used as a last resort as they may have unintended consequences like the tragic outcome in this case.

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and maybe to try and wash it off his eyes, tragic and unnecessary death really.

This report is very patchy. The police were called to deal with this man and his behaviour , described as drunk and abusive, was enough for them to resort to using pepper spray. The first reaction of some is that the police were heavy handed, without knowing what kind of fight this bloke put up. The police have to deal with all kinds of drunken, loutish behaviour all the time, I have no problem with them using pepper spray or tasers. It's impossible to treat everyone with kid gloves.

I agree with your comments in principle but I would have thought two policemen could pacify a drunken man without recourse to using weapons. Assuming the man was not armed or carried any weapon the police should have been able to take him into custody without needing to resort to using their own weapons.

Well your presuming as well as others as presuming, so it is 50/50. What is 100% clear, is that someones father, son, brother is dead and there is a "possibility" that the pepper spray contributed to his death so it has to be investigated by the PCA. I

Without more details we dont know if the police were heavy handed or if the bloke was being a total twat. So whichever side of the fence you sit on you are assuming tbh.

Honestly, my first thought on this is if he was drowning, why wait for a boat? Surely some of the police could swim? Or are they not allowed? I know I couldn't just stand and watch someone drown.

Oh.......apparently now the Police and the Fire service are NOT allowed to rush in and save someone's life, rather instead they have to complete a risk assessment for Health and Safety purposes.

Unfortunately in this case the time it takes to complete the assessment is longer than the time a person can hold their breath. :conf: